----- Original Message ----- From: <fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:13 AM Subject: fedora-list Digest, Vol 40, Issue 264 > Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Selinux so badly corrupted machine can't start (Tony Nelson) > 2. Re: yum, rpm, pirut, pup won't run on FC6 (Tony Nelson) > 3. Re: Totem on FC6 (Nigel Henry) > 4. Re: Gcc problem on FC6 (Les) > 5. Re: Gcc problem on FC6 (Andrew Overholt) > 6. Re: Brief diary of an F-7 installation (Rahul Sundaram) > 7. Re: Partition neatness and order question ? (kwhiskerz) > 8. Re: tons of spam (jdow) > 9. Where does chkconfig store its settings? (Eric) > 10. Re: tons of spam (jdow) > 11. Re: How can it be? (Timothy Murphy) > 12. Re: Totem on FC6 (Les Mikesell) > 13. Re: Brief diary of an F-7 installation (Andras Simon) > 14. Re: Where does chkconfig store its settings? (Jay Goodman) > 15. Print odd-even pages (Chu Jeang Tan) > 16. Re: Selinux so badly corrupted machine can't start > (Daniel J Walsh) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:33:35 -0400 > From: Tony Nelson <tonynelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Selinux so badly corrupted machine can't start > To: <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <p04330100c29dcc16030f@[192.168.123.162]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > At 11:30 AM -0400 6/19/07, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >>Tony Nelson wrote: >>> At 9:55 AM -0400 6/19/07, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > ... >>>> autorelabel=1 (Does the same thing as touch /.autorelabel; reboot) >>>> >>> >>> Thanks. How about adding that last one to >>> <http://danwalsh/livehournal.com/3144.html> ? >>> >>I just posted a new blog entry. > > The string "autorelabel=1" does not show up in > <http://danwalsh/livehournal.com/3144.html> after refreshing. There is > still only one instance of the word "autorelabel". If you've put the word > on a different page, I didn't find it. > -- > ____________________________________________________________________ > TonyN.:' <mailto:tonynelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > ' <http://www.georgeanelson.com/> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:32:59 -0400 > From: Tony Nelson <tonynelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: yum, rpm, pirut, pup won't run on FC6 > To: <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <p04330101c29dcd8759df@[192.168.123.162]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > At 12:05 PM -0400 6/19/07, Eric wrote: >>At 10:59 AM 6/19/2007, Tony Nelson wrote: >> >><TN>>>>>The output from lsof includes the command. Some RPM-using thing is >>running.<<<<< >> >>Oh, yeah, so it is... an instance of rpmq is running. >> >>Killed that, and the __db* files went away. >> >>Ran rpm --rebuilddb, which promptly went to sleep, and it's still running >>(sleeping) after about 5 minutes... will let it run for a while longer >>before taking the when-all-else-fails step (rebooting). > ... > > `top` will tell you if it is sleeping or thinking, though it can't tell > productive work from spinning wheels. > -- > ____________________________________________________________________ > TonyN.:' <mailto:tonynelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > ' <http://www.georgeanelson.com/> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:34:54 +0200 > From: Nigel Henry <cave.dnb@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Totem on FC6 > To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <200706192034.54084.cave.dnb@xxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Tuesday 19 June 2007 14:33, Christian Menzel wrote: >> Karl, >> >> I have not found a single file totem was able to play, so remove it and use >> vlc. >> >> Chris > > Same goes here, and the same for KDE's Kaboodle. You click on a file, the > player opens, and does zilch. > > By contrast, and this is the first time I've tried vlc, and I've installed it > on Debian Lenny, as I've mentioned to Karl, but this seems to work even > easier than Mplayer. > > One question about vlc. The images are quite dark, and I can't find any sort > of config for brightness/contrast, etc. Any suggestions? > > Nigel. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:35:52 -0700 > From: Les <hlhowell@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Gcc problem on FC6 > To: hlhowell@xxxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1182278152.9755.43.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > My wife interrupted me.... at least that is my excuse. Sorry, make it > Peter, not Phillip. Please forgive me. > > Regards, > Les H > On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 11:29 -0700, Les wrote: >> On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 22:20 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: >> > On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 21:59 -0700, Les wrote: >> > > /tmp/cc2fblEI.o: In function `main': >> > > GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1e): undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay' >> > > GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x102): undefined reference to >> > > `XCreateSimpleWindow' >> > > GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x11f): undefined reference to `XSelectInput' >> > > GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x131): undefined reference to `XMapWindow' >> > > GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x153): undefined reference to `XCreateGC' >> > > GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x16f): undefined reference to `XSetForeground' >> > > GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x181): undefined reference to `XNextEvent' >> > > GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1c4): undefined reference to `XDrawLine' >> > > GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1cf): undefined reference to `XFlush' >> > > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >> > > make: *** [GuiExample] Error 1 >> > > >> > >> > These look like linker errors; make sure you have the libX11-devel >> > package installed and that your CXXFLAGS setting (if needed) includes >> > the "-lX11" switch so that the linker can properly find the right shared >> > library to link to. >> > >> > > [...] >> > > but that would mean that the standard loader execution is messed up, >> > > because it should look in /usr/lib for the associated ".a" files that >> > > match the headers. >> > >> > As an aside, Fedora's policy as I understand it is to explicitly exclude >> > such static libraries from the packaging unless otherwise absolutely >> > necessary. Once you install libX11-devel, you'll see various libX11.so >> > symlinks in your /usr/lib directory (or /usr/lib64 if using a 64-bit >> > arch). These are how the dynamic linker finds the appropriate library. >> > >> > Hope that helped. >> I appreciate your help Peter. >> >> I was sort of expecting that when I loaded the Eclipse environment that >> it would bring along all the setup to use it. I did have to add the >> link to the java JRE for it to run, and I got past that hurdle, then >> came to this one. I decided to simplify by trying first gcc and then >> make -k, So here I am. >> Here is what happened when I tried installing libX11-devel: >> # yum install libX11-devel >> Loading "fedorakmod" plugin >> Loading "installonlyn" plugin >> Setting up Install Process >> Setting up repositories >> Reading repository metadata in from local files >> Excluding Packages in global exclude list >> Finished >> Parsing package install arguments >> Nothing to do >> >> >> So just to prove that this didn't change anything I tried: >> gcc -L X11 GuiExample.cpp >> /tmp/ccOzTvpe.o: In function `main': >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1e): undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x102): undefined reference to >> `XCreateSimpleWindow' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x11f): undefined reference to `XSelectInput' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x131): undefined reference to `XMapWindow' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x153): undefined reference to `XCreateGC' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x16f): undefined reference to `XSetForeground' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x181): undefined reference to `XNextEvent' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1c4): undefined reference to `XDrawLine' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1cf): undefined reference to `XFlush' >> /tmp/ccOzTvpe.o:(.eh_frame+0x11): undefined reference to >> `__gxx_personality_v0' >> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >> >> And then I tried this: >> yum whatprovides libX11.so >> Loading "fedorakmod" plugin >> Loading "installonlyn" plugin >> Setting up repositories >> Reading repository metadata in from local files >> Excluding Packages in global exclude list >> Finished >> Importing additional filelist information >> filelists.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 1.2 MB >> 00:08 >> dries : ################################################## 3540/3540 >> >> >> >> libX11.i386 1.0.3-4.fc6 >> core >> Matched from: >> /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 >> /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0 >> libX11.so.6 >> >> >> >> libX11-devel.i386 1.0.3-4.fc6 >> core >> Matched from: >> /usr/lib/libX11.so >> >> >> >> libX11.i386 1.0.3-4.fc6 >> core >> Matched from: >> /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 >> /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0 >> libX11.so.6 >> >> >> >> nx.i386 2.1.0-22.fc6 >> extras >> Matched from: >> /usr/lib/nx/libX11.so.6 >> /usr/lib/nx/libX11.so.6.2 >> >> >> >> libX11.i386 1.0.3-7.fc6 >> updates >> Matched from: >> /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 >> /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0 >> libX11.so.6 >> >> >> >> libX11.i386 1.0.3-7.fc6 >> updates >> Matched from: >> /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 >> /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0 >> libX11.so.6 >> >> >> >> libX11-devel.i386 1.0.3-7.fc6 >> updates >> Matched from: >> /usr/lib/libX11.so >> >> >> >> libX11.i386 1.0.3-7.fc6 >> installed >> Matched from: >> /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 >> /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0 >> libX11.so.6 >> >> >> >> libX11-devel.i386 1.0.3-7.fc6 >> installed >> Matched from: >> /usr/lib/libX11.so >> >> >> next I did >> ls -al libX11* >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Apr 12 09:35 libX11.so -> libX11.so.6.2.0 >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Apr 12 09:34 libX11.so.6 -> >> libX11.so.6.2.0 >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1057916 Apr 9 15:12 libX11.so.6.2.0 >> >> so it looks like libX11.so is installed in /usr/lib. But: >> >> gcc -LlibX11.so GuiExample.cpp >> /tmp/cccbDnur.o: In function `main': >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1e): undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x102): undefined reference to >> `XCreateSimpleWindow' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x11f): undefined reference to `XSelectInput' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x131): undefined reference to `XMapWindow' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x153): undefined reference to `XCreateGC' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x16f): undefined reference to `XSetForeground' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x181): undefined reference to `XNextEvent' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1c4): undefined reference to `XDrawLine' >> GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1cf): undefined reference to `XFlush' >> /tmp/cccbDnur.o:(.eh_frame+0x11): undefined reference to >> `__gxx_personality_v0' >> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >> >> I then tried going to the add/remove software panel and adding more >> libraries associated with development, but I was pretty sure I had the >> required stuff, and sure enough it didn't change anything. >> >> I am sorry, and this is probably clear to some of you, but I am at a >> loss to understand why this doesn't work. If I use gcc, the presence or >> absence of a library .a or .so shouldn't matter since the compiler >> should create the link chain based on the extern definition, which could >> be resolved at load time. Of course if I wanted to debug the code >> statically, I would need the ".a" version of the library, but I don't >> want that in this case. I have downloaded and read the gcc manual, and >> perused the man pages for both gcc and make. >> >> Moreover the -L argument to gcc only invokes some printout of the >> sym-link-times, which is not useful in this context. Make tries to >> interpret the -L instead of passing it to link or ld function, so it >> simply doesn't change anything. I know that make should have (does >> have) a means to pass arguments to the link and ld processes, I haven't >> gotten past the generic compile bit yet using gcc. >> >> I can try to manually create a local make file, but due to my lapse in >> time using make, I will a have to research that a bit first, and I am >> not even sure that doing that will cure the problem. >> >> I understand if there is a problem with linking, but I don't understand >> why I have the cpp errors. >> >> I have also removed the #include for the Xlib.h file and that gave me >> more errors, which confirms that the compiler is finding the Xlib.h. I >> also checked the Xlib.h file and found that the procedures named in the >> error all seem to have templates. So when the compiler gives me an >> undefined reference, typically I believe that it is due to a missing >> header file, but that is not the case here. I feel so stupid right now. >> I have used C for ages, but for the last 15 years I have had my >> environment setup on Sun and just used it. When I retired, I wasn't >> smart enough to save the details of how I had set it all up. Where is >> that notebook entry when you need it??? Oh, the one I forgot to >> write!!!! >> >> I am using the predefined "everything including the kitchen sink" make >> file, and I can't even find that file to use as an example. The make >> documentation I retrieved doesn't mention the location of the basic make >> template file, and I wanted to use that to begin designing a local make >> to see if I could code my way out of this in the make file. This is >> where the modification to the CXXFLAGS environmental variable should go >> anyway for X programs. I will look online for another make example to >> see if I can find one to cobble up for this little exercise. But any >> further help you might offer will be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks for your help so far, Phillip. >> >> Regards, >> Les H >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:29:56 -0400 > From: Andrew Overholt <overholt@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Gcc problem on FC6 > To: hlhowell@xxxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1182277796.4821.26.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 11:29 -0700, Les wrote: >> I was sort of expecting that when I loaded the Eclipse environment >> that >> it would bring along all the setup to use it. I did have to add the >> link to the java JRE for it to run, > > Sorry, I missed the earlier part of this thread - what wasn't as you > expected with Eclipse? > > Andrew > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 189 bytes > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part > Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20070619/c04cb842/attachment.bin > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:07:46 +0530 > From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Brief diary of an F-7 installation > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <4678227A.7010107@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Timothy Murphy wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure the Anaconda/Fedora developers >> have a political preference for Gnome over KDE, >> and so make it more difficult to choose KDE. >> I think people should have a free choice. > > I think you have a political preference against Anaconda developers and > assuming their motivations without asking them is rather rude. Just stop > doing that. Users always have the "free choice" to select "customize > now" in the installation. > > Rahul > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:54:32 -0600 > From: kwhiskerz <kwhiskerz@xxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Partition neatness and order question ? > To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <200706191254.32223.kwhiskerz@xxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On June 19, 2007 10:49:27 Jeff Voskamp wrote: >> William Case wrote: >> > Hi; >> > >> > Over the last 3 Fedora installs, I have managed to get my partition >> > numbers out of sequence. >> > >> > parted /dev/sdb returns: >> > Number Start End Size Type File system Flags >> > 1 8225kB 41.1GB 41.1GB extended lba >> > 5 8258kB 90.5MB 82.2MB logical ext3 boot >> > 6 90.5MB 1349MB 1258MB logical linux-swap >> > 7 1349MB 9739MB 8390MB logical ext3 >> > 8 9739MB 30.6GB 20.9GB logical ext3 >> > 9 30.6GB 41.1GB 10.5GB logical fat32 >> > >> > Starting correctly with number 1 (sdb1) then jumps to 5 (sdb5). How can >> > I rename my partitions so that they go in sequence; sdb1, sdb2, ... >> > sdb6. >> > >> > This is simply a neatness fetish; the numbering is not presently causing >> > any problems to the actual opeation of F-7. Am I best just to leave it >> > alone, or is there a simple way or program that can re-number these >> > partitions? >> >> Partitions 1-4 are primary partitions defined in the partition table in >> sector 1 of the disk. >> Partitions 5 and up are logical partitions residing inside the extended >> partition. >> You can't simply renumber the partitions since you'd have to pull some >> out of the extended partition. However, using something like Partition >> Magic you could possibly shrink one or more of the larger ones, create >> partitions 2-4, copy over the contents and delete some of the higher >> numbered ones. It would take a while and not really buy you anything, >> other than the nice numbering. :-) >> >> Jeff Voskamp > > Actually, you can reorder the number very nicely with fdisk. Go into the > advanced settings, x, and type f to fix the partition order. make sure to > adjust fstab! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:55:51 -0700 > From: "jdow" <jdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: tons of spam > To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <0ade01c7b2a3$78a71e20$0225a8c0@wednesday> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > From: "Arthur Pemberton" <pemboa@xxxxxxxxx> > >> On 6/17/07, George <gasjr4wd@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> wow guys, >>> I've been signed up for this list for about a week and I've noticed a >>> ton of spam coming in now. I guess I should have used a different >>> address than my main one... I could stand the traffic, (and this is a >>> high traffic list!) but all the spam, no way. >> >> >> Have you googled your email address? The only hit related to fedora is >> this thread, but your email address is already in search engines. > > I'll say his address is on Google in spades. He has an E-Bay account, > or somebody does with that username. I got 61 hits on Google. > > {^_^} > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:55:38 -0400 > From: Eric <spamsink@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Where does chkconfig store its settings? > To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20070619143111.05a79760@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > > Where do chkconfig and system-config-services store their settings? > > I checked the man pages and Google and no luck, then tried making a change > to chkconfig and running "find / -mmin 10", and nothing obvious showed up. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:02:04 -0700 > From: "jdow" <jdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: tons of spam > To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <0ae001c7b2a4$56a73d90$0225a8c0@wednesday> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > From: "David G. Miller" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> "jdow" <jdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> I may have some "sharp words" about the spam fighting tools that come >>> with >>> FC7. I have little time to play with it. And it does not like my laptop. >>> So I have to download a bunch of debug files so I can track it down. (The >>> bug is in X-Windows so the gnome based folks want me to download and >>> install an unknown number of gnome debug files. Go figure. When I have >>> time I will humor them. But it's hard as heck to debug a frozen machine >>> that has kicked the display out the window, metaphorically speaking. The >>> SpamAssassin RPMS that came with FC4 and FC5 seemed to be incomplete when >>> I attempted to use them in the past. And for an effective SpamAssassin >>> install SOME mention of the Spam Assassin Rules Emporium is properly >>> required, as is mention of FuzzyOCR and a couple other gems. >>> >>> (SARE is so effective it was included in the massive DDoS attack that >>> struck Spamhaus as well. Some spammer got REALLY peaved, po' baby.) >> If you run your own mail server, I've had good luck with dSpam. It takes >> a little while to get it trained since it's Bayesian filter based but I >> now get overall accuracy of over 95% and the spam identification is over >> 93%. I should add that I get *very few* false positives (currently 12 out >> of over 15,000 e-mails) and several of those were right after installation >> when the filter had very little data to go on. > > Wow - at THAT level it'd get chucked with extreme prejudice. (Since it > is not actively evil I'd not give in the paraffin and lead foil wraps > followed by a staking and burial at midnight of a full Moon. But I would > put it on a disk and bury the disk.) That accuracy is horrible. If I cut > my spam catch percentage to about 99% or so I could virtually eliminate > my false alarm rate. But that's not worth the effort tuning the system. > It ain't broke so I am not going to fix it. I'm serious that when I had > the 250-300 spam a day spam traffic I'd go one to two weeks without a > false alarm, once I found some juju to handle technical mailing lists > that have patch files cross the list frequently. > > SpamAssassin can be awkward to setup. But once setup it is devastatingly > effective, especially since it scores block lists. No one block list > will give you a false positive. But they do save a lot of spam sneak- > throughs. I'm quite convinced that a proper anti-spam tool combines > rules and Bayes. > > {^_^} > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:38:21 +0100 > From: Timothy Murphy <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: How can it be? > To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <f597qu$jbc$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Chris Jones wrote: > >> It doesn't change the fact that most people have no problems with Fedora >> at all. > > I think that is very improbable. > I imagine that a large proportion (like 90%) of Fedora users > will try either viewing DVDs or running Skype, > and in either case they are almost certain to meet problems. > > > -- > Timothy Murphy > e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie > tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 > s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:07:11 -0500 > From: Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Totem on FC6 > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <4678295F.9000302@xxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Karl Larsen wrote: > >>> If you're happy to run patent encumbered software then you can >>> configure the livna repository by installing the rpm at: >>> >>> http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-6.rpm >>> >>> ..and then run >>> >>> yum install totem-xine >>> >>> ..to install a version of totem which can play DVDs. >>> >> Hi but one problem. When I try to yum install totem-xine it farts around >> and errors out saying the installed totem is in the way. So tried to rpm >> -e totem but libs are not removed because they are used for other >> software packages. >> >> What now? > > Back up a step. Have you installed any other 3rd party RPMS (i.e. not > from core/extras/livna)? If so, I'd remove them or start with a fresh > install. Livna rarely if ever replaces or conflicts with anything in > the stock distribution - and in fact requires it to resolve yum > dependencies. The other 3rd party repositories make an effort to be > compatible with the base and each other but don't always succeed. I'd > use them only if necessary. And, as others have already mentioned, vlc > will play about anything you throw at it. > > -- > Les Mikesell > lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:11:25 +0200 > From: "Andras Simon" <szajmi@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Brief diary of an F-7 installation > To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: > <9008cd5d0706191211o2dca5bb0yd1684565bb9aa8a0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 6/19/07, Timothy Murphy <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Andras Simon wrote: >> >> >> 2. There should be an honest choice given between Gnome and KDE. >> >> There is something sneaky about the way Fedora tries to get Gnome in. >> > >> > I remember being offered the option to install Gnome, KDE or a third >> > DTE (Xfce?). I chose none, and got it :-) Which, btw is a definite >> > improvement over older RH/Fedora installs. So I don't see any Gnome >> > conspiracy here. >> >> Where were you given that choice? >> As far as I can see, you get no choice at all >> unless you opt for a Custom Choice of packages >> (which itself is non-default); > > I must admit, I did. And probably so should everyone who knows what he wants. > Those who go with the defaults should not complain that the defaults > are not quite what they expect - as long as they're safe and sane > ones. > >> and then you have to choose the Desktop bundle, >> uncheck Gnome and check KDE. >> It's easy to overlook the fact that Gnome is checked in by default. >> >> Why not give users a simple choice with radio buttons? > > There is a simple choice with checkboxes, if you chose to have choices. > > Andras > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:12:26 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Jay Goodman" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Where does chkconfig store its settings? > To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: > <26858.216.143.242.112.1182280346.squirrel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > It doesn't. To see if a service is "on" or "off", it checks for the > existence of the symlinks in the /etc/rcN.d directories > > When you issue the command "chkconfig sendmail on", > chckconfig looks for the "chkconfig:" line in the actual /etc/init.d/ > > In the sendmail case (i'm looking at RHEL3 at the moment) the chkconfig: > line in /etc/init.d/sendmail reads > > chkconfig: 2345 80 30 > > issuing the command "chkconfig sendmail on" will create symlinks > /etc/rd1.d/K30sendmail > /etc/rd2.d/S80sendmail > /etc/rd3.d/S80sendmail > /etc/rd4.d/S80sendmail > /etc/rd5.d/S80sendmail > /etc/rd6.d/K30sendmail > > issuing the command "chkconfig --list sendmail" checks for the existence > of the start and kill links in the various runlevels (/etc/rcN.d/) to > output its startup configuration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Where do chkconfig and system-config-services store their settings? >> >> I checked the man pages and Google and no luck, then tried making a change >> to chkconfig and running "find / -mmin 10", and nothing obvious showed up. >> >> -- >> fedora-list mailing list >> fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:13:08 -0500 > From: "Chu Jeang Tan" <chujtan@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Print odd-even pages > To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: > <1d3a20d80706191213y73cd74dcj6b67bbad946df9c9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Anyway to print odd/even pages only in apps such as evince and epiphany? > > Is this a feature of the application, CUPS or the underlying CUPS driver? > > -- > Chu Jeang Tan > chujtan@xxxxxxxxx > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:13:14 -0400 > From: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Selinux so badly corrupted machine can't start > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <46782ACA.6060809@xxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Tony Nelson wrote: >> At 11:30 AM -0400 6/19/07, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> >>> Tony Nelson wrote: >>> >>>> At 9:55 AM -0400 6/19/07, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >>>> >> ... >> >>>>> autorelabel=1 (Does the same thing as touch /.autorelabel; reboot) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Thanks. How about adding that last one to >>>> <http://danwalsh/livehournal.com/3144.html> ? >>>> >>>> >>> I just posted a new blog entry. >>> >> >> The string "autorelabel=1" does not show up in >> <http://danwalsh/livehournal.com/3144.html> after refreshing. There is >> still only one instance of the word "autorelabel". If you've put the word >> on a different page, I didn't find it. >> > It is a new blog entry. > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 40, Issue 264 > ******************************************** how can we do for this ?
