This may be an off the wall question but here goes. When you bring up the cups web interface ans choose to administer your printers, you are asked to login with a username and passwd. Usually it is the name root and roots passwd that works. Let us say some one has a network sniffer on another machine on your LAN. Since the root passwd your type is going to localhost network it should be handled by the loopback interface. Is it? And if that is so can a sniffer on the LAN see the passwd entered? -- ======================================================================= Another good night not to sleep in a eucalyptus tree. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx