David wrote- > Your rants about SELinux are also seen by Linux Newbies, Fedora Newbies if > you will, the people that come to this list looking for help. And they, > IMHO, are given a really bad first impression by what you rant. I (newbie) have f7 with SELinux on and its faster then it was with my previous OS. So no harm done, I probably don't need it active and might see improvements in performance if not installed but it was actually part of the reason I picked fedora. You can all thank my last OS for that. In fact I will too. That said, I am glad to here the rants, they give me a broader view of the things this OS is used for and the problems facing people attempting those things. I can learn just as much from another persons failure as I can my own, only it doesn't hurt as much.