Hi! On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 10:07 +1000, Res wrote: > On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Craig White wrote: > > > you have this way of leaping to conclusions. > > we all do, it depends on which direction we leap as an individual. > > > fedora 7 is a bit off since it represents a number of significant > > changes whereas I would expect that Fedora 8 will be a bit less > > aggressive. > > I've heard this about previous versions, it's all hogwash, but maybe one > version they will ge tit right, one thing I dont like is the lack of QC. > > > > > opensuse is well...suse and I could not consign myself to suse after > > Novell signed the agreement with Microsoft but that's just me. Same here!!! > > normally I would agree with you, but there comes a time to revise all > thoughts, if one is better, than so be it, note opensuse is not directly > the same, as they too do not include the codecs Thats not true! OpenSuse ships Adobe Flash and Sun Java out of the box! > etc but lets face it it > only takes 30 seconds to rpm -e blah and instlal the tarball of a fully > functioning piece of software, and thats what I've always done since RH > butcher too many packages, refer teh recet openoffice threads etc for > altest, so its not like its somthing ld. > > > > > I got the impression (and I have no empirical data to confirm this), > > that ubuntu is starting to dominate desktop installations now. > > Time will tell, RH had a good thing, until they decide to play politics > with the distros, anyone searching google will see they cant play their > mp3's and thats the end of fedora for their condsideration, its what I > hear time and time and time again, they WILL go for what works best out > of the box. That is why Fedora is my distribution of choice and that is why I do not use Suse or Mandriva! I want a distribution what comes 100% with Free and Open Source Software! If you don't, chose another... > > old timers like me dont care because we know where to source the real > programs from and install them, but newbies have no idea, and until its > all sorted out windows will sadly always win, maybe in 2 years when the > patent on mp3 expires linux will get a better takeup of newbie desktop > users because this wont be an issue, one less obstacle. > > -- > > Cheers > Res > ClausReheis