On 9/21/07, Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > IMO, it is a buggy pile of crap. And if I may be so bold as to speak > for Gene, that is what "set him off". Having it on one's machine is > demonstrably a cause of: I respect your opinion, and hope you respect those of people like myself who disagree with you, and think SELinux is a good thing > (1) frustration Haven't had such with SELinux in years. > (2) failing machines I have never had a machine fail because of SELinux > (3) unnecessary making of "gurus" when we all want Linux easier > for the non-technical user to administer Considering SELinux doesn't require one to install their own rules, I don't see how one makes the case for this point. Nor does everyone share this goal of making everything easier for everyone. > (4) bloat That's highly subjective I believe. > (5) more opportunity for defects and exploits An undeniable consequence, but also a valid arguement against firewalls, package management software, etc. > > But when that smiling hacker from somewhere finally finally decides that > > there are enough Linux users that think like Windows users he will write > > that program that will wipe out your milling program. > > The only way to make systems robust is to make them simpler, not > more complex. I don't think that is the only way, complexity may decrease robustness, but they are not mutually exclusive > > Honest Gene. SELinux has never caused me a problem that a simple 'look 'n > > fix it' could not solve. It is work in progress and when you use older > > releases it can cause problems. > > Bully for you. > > Mike Interesting response. What is the purpose of posting to the list if not to share opinions? -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com )
