> actually, I'm sort of stuck doing almost that because I can't seem to > get older iMac's to work as thin clients on ltsp 4.2 and one of the guys > that helped with the Mac client utils says I need to look at what they > employed on k12ltsp so I'm downloading the ltsp-6-32-bit disc images > atm. Can you issue startx --query IPADDRESS :1 from the iMac? I assume you have already installed the X11 from apple and can issue a "startx" (or "startx :1"?) from the X11 terminal and get the grey screen with the X. I had this set up some time ago - an old iMac connecting to FC2 ala LTSP 4 Chris