Somebody in the thread at some point said: >> FWIW I had good luck with wpa_supplicant whenever I used it, it's >> not to hard to set up either on the APs I tried it with. > > ah, good point. from what i see, system-config-network only lets me > configure the WEP key, is that right? this means that i might have to > break down and recommend starting NetworkManager[Dispatcher] after > all, which allows WPA configuration. or do the configuration manually > with "iwconfig". or try wpa_supplicant, which i've never used but i'm > guessing it can't be that hard. FWIW I just tried NetworkManager with my WPA network for the first time in a while and it did a great job on iwl3945 from kernel 2.6.23-0.74.rc2.git1.fc8. This is also mac80211-based so I would definitely try it. I started the NetworkManager service and ran nm-tool as my normal user. Very nice! It did not overwrite my old /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf either. BTW this just flew by ''Just in case you missed the details, the latest set of changes to b43 queued by Michael will require a new version of fwcutter, now called b43-fwcutter, and a new extraction of your firmware. ...'' http://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless&m=118755225116482&w=2 -Andy