On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Karl Larsen wrote: > Manuel Arostegui Ramirez wrote: > > 2007/8/14, Timothy Murphy <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > > > Incidentally, I've said before and people have strongly disagreed with me, > > > but if you have WiFi problems I think it is best to turn of > > > NetworkManager, > > > if you are running it, as it simply makes it more difficult > > > to diagnose the problem. > > > > > > > > > > Totally agree. > > NetworkManager is totally crap, I never, ever, use it, I would rather > > do everything by hand, ifconfig, iwconfig, route... > > > > All the best > > Manuel > > > > > I am a booster for netmanager and it is macho to do it all with > network, but the NM work is proceeding and it is most useful for > laptops and you should use it. It is in your best interest :-) > > If you forgot to turn off network before you turned on NM, of > course NM doesn't work well ;-) i swear, there is a monty python skit struggling to get out here: fedora mailing list: "why are you finding this so difficult? really, it's just, you know, a download, and an install, and a modprobe or something, and maybe some editing, and perhaps that network manager thingy on or off or whatever ... what's the big deal?" me: "have any of you actually got this to work?" FML: "well, of course, yes, naturally, you betcha ... well, no." rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://fsdev.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page ========================================================================