I'm still not sure where all these comments are coming from. The only problem I've found with Gnome in switching from FC6 to fc7 is that it won't exit cleanly and I have to remove the session file from .gnome_2 in order to get back in as user if I ever exit to do something as root. This is an irritation I agree and, like Paul Johnson, I would probably have abandoned at least Fedora if I had started off with fc7. However, I still stand by my conclusions that, overall, Linux is streets ahead of Windoze. Fortunately, if one is not satisfied or is having problems with Fedora, then there are : SuSE, Debian, Ubuntu, Mepis, DSL, BSD, Xandros, Mandriva and many, many others. I've tried many, many different distros and the principal reason that I use Fedora is that I got "hooked" on it at FC3 and have gotten used to its particular characteristics such that, if I switch to another distro, I find I hit the wrong keys or the desktop looks wrong or the menus aren't in the same order or something like that : always minor things. Occasionally, a distro won't set up my ADSL automatically and, the odd distro makes setting up somewhat obscure, so I drop that one because I can't be bothered to spend the time on it as I now use a computer for my pleasure and not for my work. I would comment that I have been in the computer industry more or less since its inception in the 1950s and have designed hardware, designed central processors, programmed in binary, assemblers, and a variety of high-level languages. I have set up multi-processor distributed data acquisition systems and worked in OSs discovering bugs and/or improving performance. In all my experience, if I had ever produced or had produced for me such awful code that M$ sells at an excessive price, I would have been fired or forced to fire in my turn for sheer incompetence. Code should (a) be modular and (b) should be as bug free as possible in other words, it should be THOROUGHLY tested before it can ever be considered as "working code". In my experience, Windoze doesn't come near these criteria. So, don't give up on Linux if you hit a few shortcomings : there's always another distro to try (or even an older distro if it comes to that : there must be many people out there who are still using less-than-current versions of their distro). CroombeFP M.Sc., P.Eng. -- This message comes to you entirely M$ free : only genuine Tux products have been used.