-------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Aaron Konstam <akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Re : ready to give up Linux Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:19:49 -0500 On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 11:34 -0500, Paul Johnson wrote: > On 8/6/07, Croombe F. Pensom <croombefp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I have now installed Fedora (including fc7) on a number of different > > machines and they all work just fine : they install easily, find > > everything and run first time no problems. > > > > Maybe there is something you are doing incorrectly during the install > > process : it is easy to overlook something if you speed through the > > install too quickly. > > > > Also, are installing or updating? If one is updating (from, say, FC6 to > > fc7) then it usually (in my experience) doesn't work and I have found > > that it's best to do a complete install with every new version of > > Fedora. > > > > I can't agree with the reply that there's a problem with Fedora maturity > > (or maturity in any other distro if it comes to that). Each distro has > > its own quirks and and characteristics, but I have found that "maturity" > > has nothing to do with it. Each new version of a distro addresses > > outstanding matters such as small bugs, new devices, new protocols, > > updated applications and so on and, despite its stability, even Linux > > will be prone to small bugs being introduced whenever there is an update > > to the kernel or an application. But nothing like the problems one > > experiences with Windoze. > > > > Maybe the machine on which you are trying to install fc7 has some > > characteristic that Linux doesn't like or can't cope with : I understand > > that laptops in general seem to be Linux UNfiendly but, with my IBM R31, > > I've had no troubles with any distro I've tried installing on it > > (perhaps because it is old now?). > > CroombeFP > > > > > > I'm sympathetic to the original poster on this thread. I've been > running Linux since Redhat 4.1, a long time. If F7 had been the first > Linux for me, I am pretty sure I would have quit. > > On a Dell Inspiron laptop, I've had nothing but trouble with the > kernel and udev. Suspend/Hibernate did not work, original kernel and > update have had serious problems to work on, usb sticks did not mount > automatically, the wireless network (iwl3945) has been a disaster, and > Gnome seems to get worse and worse That is strange since I have had none of these problems with a DELL Dimension D810 laptop. CORRECTION: OBVIOUSLY IT IS A lATITUDE D810 > > I would think this is the normal state of Linux, I suppose, except > that last month I bought a Nokia N800 internet tablet that runs on a > small version of Debian linux. Guess what? Everywhere I go, the > wireless connects effortlessly. > > F7 is the first fedora that made me feel like a beta tester (or alpha > tester) for RedHat enterprise linux. Simply too many fundamentals > have not worked well and require hours of study and work. And the > various "help" pages, such as the pm-suspend quirks page, are simply > unhelpful. > > -- > Paul E. Johnson > Professor, Political Science > 1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504 > University of Kansas > -- ======================================================================= Ten of the meanest cons in the state pen met in the corner of the yard to shoot some craps. The stakes were enormous, the tension palpable. When his turn came to shoot, Dutsky nervously plunked down his entire wad, shook the dice and rolled. A smile crossed his face as a seven showed up, but it quickly changed to horror as third die slipped out of his sleeve and fell to the ground with the two others. No one said a word. Finally, Killer Lucci picked up the third die, put it in his pocket and handed the others to Dutsky. "Roll 'em," Lucci said. "Your point is thirteen." ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- ======================================================================= For the fashion of Minas Tirith was such that it was built on seven levels, each delved into a hill, and about each was set a wall, and in each wall was a gate. -- J.R.R. Tolkien, "The Return of the King" [Quoted in "VMS Internals and Data Structures", V4.4, when referring to system overview.] ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
