Somebody in the thread at some point said: >> This sounds simple but it is not simple at all. > > There are several different threads going about this. I thought someone > else solved the same problem by picking up a newer udev package from the > rawhide repo and keeping the current fedora kernel - so it must already > be done. I think Karl was musing over the interrelationships between packages and how that can cause problems. "It's not as simple as I thought" is the universal "beginning of wisdom". -Andy