on 7/22/2007 12:52 PM, Karl Larsen wrote: > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >> Bruno Wolff III wrote: >>> On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 10:56:55 -0600, >>> Karl Larsen <k5di@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>>>> Karl Larsen wrote: >>>>>> Thinking about Ferdora 7 and 8 it appears when 8 is made available >>>>>> we will need to download another DVD full of software. I want to talk >>>>>> about a better way. Why must a person building a server get 4.7 GB of >>>>>> software when he wants just 750 MBytes of it? >>>>> There is no need to do. There is a network boot option with boot.iso >>>>> image and there are Live images, both GNOME and KDE spins for x86 is >>>>> around the size you want. >>>>> >>>>> Rahul >>>>> >>>> As usual Rahul you didn't read what I wrote. You just throw out >>>> things that have zero to do with concept. >>> Rahul seemed to provide reasonable suggestions for the problems you are >>> asking about. Doing a network install solves the issue of downloading >>> stuff you don't need. Fedora has Live CD versions that you were asking about. >>> >> I think the problem is that Rahual didn't go into enough detail for >> Karl. He didn't understand that you can just download the boot.iso >> image, burn it to a CD, and use that to install the packages you >> want from a network. (Or over the Internet.) If you do not walk Karl >> through it step by step, then he doesn't understand what you are >> saying, and makes comments like the one above. Now, if he would just >> learn to ask when he doesn't understand part of the message, instead >> of taking the position that the part he doesn't understand doesn't >> matter... >> >> We don't even want to get into doing a PXE boot and installing that way. >> >> Mikkel >> > Not true. I understand what he was suggesting. Now lets run through > this thought a bit. Lets say your wife just got interested in Linux. > Would you tell her to d/l the boot disk and then without help select the > things she wants in her desktop? That is stupid and will not work. > > What she and all the other windows users want is to d/l one CD and load > a working system. This is all you can expect from a normal windows user. > > This is why you need to think like I did and make a real effort to do > this. If not then Fedora will remain a Geek's toy. The two Live-CDs that were mentioned, one for KDE and one for GNOME, do just that. I can not say anything about the KDE Live-CD because as I have not seen it. The GNOME Live-CD would have everything on it for a desktop type install that I would want *except* Thunderbird. OpenOffice, and squid. *If* I remember correctly. And those can be installed from sources on The Internet. And, of course, I am excluding all of the 'third party site' packages too. In spite of what many think a Windows install does *not* come with much software. Just the basic stuff. The rest, the fancy stuff if you will, has to be added later. -- David
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