Karl Larsen wrote: > Kevin J. Cummings wrote: >> Karl Larsen wrote: >> >>> I watched it and said Y and saw it load a devel file. I am not blind nor >>> stupid. >>> >> >> Karl there are those of here who are starting to wonder.... Why don't >> you listen to what you are told by those who know. I know this is a >> "users" list, but when a developer tells you something, please listen. >> If you don't understand, read it again! What you saw was not what you >> thought you saw. You remember what you want to remember. >> >> If you don't believe me, do the following: >> >> Look at your yum.log and see when you installed the various ntfs-3g >> packages. I'll bet that ntfs-3g got install when you weren't looking. >> >> You can also list the packages to see which one contain the executable >> files necessary to actually mount an ntfs filesystem, and which ones >> contain the header files for development work. Just like Rahul tried to >> tell you! Sheesh! >> >> >>> Karl >>> >>> >> >> >> > Well idiot children, this is from /var/log/yum.log: > > Jul 18 18:57:02 Installed: t1lib.i386 5.1.0-9.fc7 > Jul 18 18:57:17 Installed: pdfedit.i386 0.3.1-1.fc7 > Jul 20 13:41:56 Installed: ntfs-3g-devel.i386 2:1.516-1.fc7 > [root@k5di log]# Nowhere does it say when you installed ntfs-3g. When *did* you install ntfs-3g? > I got that with yum install *ntfs-3g* and it DOES make my mount ntfs > work for the first time ever. You smart asses assume I am wrong and I am > NOT! No, you are wrong! You don't understand HOW mounting works on Linux. You are using BAD scientific method. You are looking at results instead of looking at the process. WHEN you type mount -t nfts ...... (or when you put a line in your /etc/fstab, and run mount -a like is done in /etc/rc.sysinit when your system boots) the mount command runs. It looks at its command line arguments and sees that you are trying to mount an NFTS filesystem. mount knows nothing about how to mount an NTFS filesystem. It instead invokes *another* tool to do the work for it. This tool is called mount.ntfs and it lives in the /sbin directory. And it you quesry RPM for it: rpm -qf /sbin/mount.ntfs you'll find that it comes from the ntfs-3g RPM. *NOT* from the ntfs-3g-devel RPM. In fact, here is the file list from my (FC6) ntfs-3g-devel RPM: > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13556 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/attrib.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1745 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/attrlist.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2568 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/bitmap.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1591 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/bootsect.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1380 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/collate.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1506 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/compat.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1189 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/compress.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1549 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/debug.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4831 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/device.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2064 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/device_io.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3495 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/dir.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6711 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/endians.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4927 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/index.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6711 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/inode.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 108363 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/layout.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1732 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/lcnalloc.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5217 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/list.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16361 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/logfile.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5520 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/logging.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4426 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/mft.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1295 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/mst.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2397 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/ntfstime.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3138 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/runlist.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1978 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/security.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2268 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/support.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3009 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/types.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2596 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/unistr.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1120 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/version.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8362 May 15 21:19 /usr/include/ntfs-3g/volume.h > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 May 15 21:19 /usr/lib/libntfs-3g.so -> libntfs-3g.so.2.0.0 There is *NOT* 1 single executable file in this package anywheres! Please Karl, GET A CLUE! > Lay off calling me stupid. Look at your self in a mirror :-) Karl, you really need to take a step back and look at yourself. It really is sad to see someone exclaim so vehemently that they are right when they are so wrong. I'm beginning to wonder it you have some kind of problem. I've watched you post messages here for a couple of months now, and you're getting worse all the time. Why is it that so many other people seem to get along just fine and you have this problem with so many of them? > Karl -- Kevin J. Cummings kjchome@xxxxxxx cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org)