Anne Wilson wrote: > On Saturday 09 June 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Saturday 09 June 2007, Joe Barnett wrote: >>> Anne Wilson wrote: >>>> On Saturday 09 June 2007, Joe Barnett wrote: >>>>> Try running "ntpd -gq" at the end of rc.local to sync the clock. >>>>> Then kick off nptd (with your normal settings) following that. >>>> I'm not sure I understand that - what do you mean by the second >>>> statement? >>> I apologize for the confusion. >>> >>> "ntpd -gq" runs the daemon only long enough to sync the clock, then >>> it quits. Think of ntpdate. >> Which is exactly what it did the last time I studied that startup script >> in /etc/init.d. It runs ntpdate once to crash synch the clock, and then >> runs the ntpd. >> >>> Why not just use ntpdate? Good >>> question. man ntpd indicates that ntpdate is going to be retired at >>> some point, and that ntpd -q should be used instead. -q seems to >>> stand for quit (as soon as the clock is adjusted). -g tells ntpd >>> not to exit with error if the offset is greater than 1000 seconds. >>> >>> I am not sure why they want to retire ntpdate as it seems a very >>> useful tool. Anyway... >> I agree, however retiring such a usefull tool might be desirable from the >> standpoint of being replaced by a better way, possibly built into ntpd, but >> I've not noted any discussion about it. And I'm of course not on a mailing >> list that would make me privy to that either. I would hope that they would >> make an attempt at advising the users that there was a change coming first. >> >>> Both the stock ntpd and openntpd have features which should bring >>> the clock to good time as soon as they get a good feed from one or >>> more of the servers for which they are configured to use. ntpd -gq, >>> in theory, should not be needed if either ntpd is going to be run as >>> a daemon. >>> >>> That being said, my experience (with both the stock ntpd and >>> openntpd) is that it is best to do a gross adjustment first (whether >>> by ntpd -gq, ntpdate, rdate, etc.) *then* start the daemon. That is >>> why I use two commands to get my ntp stuff going. >> Which is what the current (fc6 anyway) startup script does. Quite well in >> fact if the network is available at runtime. In Anne's case, that can't be >> assumed. Probably because its miss-configured in ways I'm not familiar >> with since I don't yet use wpa_supplicant, in fact its all done by the >> network script on my lappy. The WEP key is actually listed in >> my /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0 using the KEY=syntax but I >> have NDI if the WAP(2) key Anne is using could be similarly defined there >> or not. >> >> It might be worth a try, Anne. >> > ntpd was attempting to run before wpa_supplicant could join the network. I'm > torn between re-numbering it and removing it in favour of the two commands in > rc.local. I think I'll take those commands out again, for a trial, and see > whether the re-numbering does the trick. > > Anne > > > Given what Gene wrote about the startup files, and that you are using the stock ntpd, I would suggest just playing with the startup order in rc3 (rc5?), rather than mess with rc.local. Not to sound completely ignorant, but is there a management/configuration interface which can be used to set up the wifi services? I have just been calling scripts from rc.local in order to get wifi working. Thanks, Joe -- E-mail: joe.barnett@xxxxxxxx Web: http://www.mr72.com/ AOL IM: JoeBarnett Phone: 623.670.1326