>Knute Johnson wrote: >>> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:42:05 -0700 >>> Knute Johnson <knute@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> That works fine but you can't upgrade an existing installation >>>> without a DVD drive or a complicated (and not really documented so >>>> that a linux blivet can do it) set of procedures. >>> You already have a mail server and a desktop machine. Why not copy the >>> dvdimage and host a nfs server on one (which will take you about 3 minutes to >>> set up), and boot off of the cdrom boot.iso on the other; upgrade it. Then copy >>> the dvd image to the other, host a nfs server on that, and upgrade it. >>> >>> Assuming that they are in the same room (or can be brought into the same room) >>> it won't take any longer to do it this way than it would take to shuffle >>> all of those CD's around. Really! >> >> They are on a different network and nfs is not installed on the mail >> server. Installing it is probably not a big problem but that >> computer is connected directly to the net and I don't think I want >> nfs exposed to the world. And the mail server is downstairs in the >> garage and my desktop isn't. Then add to that that I have no idea >> how nfs works or how to configure it or how to do an install with it. >> I'm not opposed to learning new skills but I don't have unlimited >> time to fool with this. > >OK, lemme get this straight. You're going to do an in-place upgrade on >a PRODUCTION mail server without having done it on an identical >development/test environment first? > >Are you insane? You can see my other post about the mail server twin. So no I am not insane (a little paranoid maybe). >> CDs are simple and fairly reliable (more so now that I figured out >> how solve the media check problem). My mail server is still at FC5 >> because I didn't want to risk blowing it up when I upgraded it. Now >> it is time to upgrade and there are no disks. Upgrading is hazardous >> enough without having to drag computers around, change their >> addresses, do an install that I can't find any real instructions for >> and drag my desktop downstairs. > >Why don't you just put the DVD iso image on the mail server's hard >drive, burn the boot.iso file to CD, boot off of it with the command >"linux askmethod" and tell it to install off your local disk? Easy as >can be. How will that work when the installer formats the drive? >> I think maybe I'll just change my mail server computer to ubuntu >> server. They just upgrade from the net. No disks. > >Why do people like you think this will make us go all aquiver and fall >to our knees begging you to stay, professing the error of our ways? I don't care if you quiver or beg. Why would I? If you don't want F to be usable by more people then you should be glad to get rid of me. I just want a simple system that I can install or upgrade with a CD drive. Who would want to keep me around? >I mean, seriously, your whole argument is "I'm too lazy to do this the >right way, maybe I should go to Ubuntu! That'll be cool!" I'm not too lazy. I spend way too much time keeping my Linux computers running or trying to get things to work on them that just install and run on Windows. >If you seriously think moving from Fedora to Ubuntu is going to be >easier than just doing your freaking due diligence around this upgrade, >then hey, knock yourself out. You should try harder to make me go away. That was a pitiful attempt. >Otherwise, ask smart questions, do the work necessary to run your >environment in a sane fashion, and don't be a jerk. I'm not the jerk here Mr. Pot. I'll ask a smart question then. My DVD image will be done downloading today, explain exactly how, in enough detail that I can actually get it to work, to install it to the hard drive of my mail server twin and upgrade that computer. Or just call me a jerk and send me on my way, your choice. -- Knute Johnson Molon Labe...
