The docs on grip imply that it can rip tracks from a CD. I can see how you indicate which tracks you want to rip. What is not clear to me is where are they ripped to. In other words what media ends up containing the ripped tracks. Do your need a machine with two CD drives to do this and the tracks are placed on a CD-R? Or are they placed on some other kind of medium? -- ======================================================================= "Bureaucracy is the enemy of innovation." -- Mark Shepherd, former President and CEO of Texas Instruments ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx