Mike Chambers wrote: > On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 12:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> It is much more time saving to test each beta individually and then when you >> have your final RC test an upgrade from a formal previous release to a >> formal final release or final RC. If any problems are found at that point >> you fix those and then release. >> >> It is inefficient to resolve upgrade issues in multiple beta stages that may >> or may not exist when you get further down the line. > > OK, if I understand you, you're saying you should test each beta > separately, as a "by itself install" until you get to an RC, and then > test the official upgrade from official release to RC? I think I may also not have been clear that I am speaking from the "Release Manager's" viewpoint and not the general end user's perspective. I always like the caveat that the Red Hat Enterprise folks put out during their Beta and RC phases. I don't recall exactly...but it was along the lines of 'This release is a beta.....if it breaks you are free to keep all the bits". > Cause if that is the case, you leave little room for error, or not > enough time to get anything fixed (especially if it's a bug and you have > to wait on someone else to fix) if you have problems. At least during > the betas, you start testing and start getting things fixed way ahead of > time and insure they are fixed, both on the user end and the developer > end. Again, from the "RM's" perspective you should know from experience how much time you will need to test the final upgrade procedure and fix remaining release critical issue to make your target release date within a reasonable amount of time. Otherwise, your name is Microsoft. :-) > I guess if you have the time and not in a hurry to upgrade, then you can > just wait and start testing when the RC's come out, get problems fixed > and/or resolved, then do the official upgrade. Guess depends on your > time restraints, priorities, and what you need to do the job. Most people would like to have stable systems. I have little sympathy for those that take their stable systems and then attempt "upgrades/updates" to beta and RC releases and then complain that dependency issues exist and their system is unstable. Again, my HO. -- Hey, what's the big deal about going to some building every Sunday? I mean, isn't God everywhere? -- Homer Simpson Homer the Heretic