Dear friends, I am writing this in great distress. I have now been trying for weeks to get my Intel Pro Wireless 3945 working on my Dell Latitude 820 under Fedora. I tried Fedora Cora 6 and Fedora 7 Test 4. I really need my wireless and this is becoming a personal disaster for me. I have spent many hours. I have written various messages to this forum. Some replies I got said it is simple and gave instructions, but the instructions did not make it work. Others said, they too did fail. Yesterday, there was an update available regarding ieee-whatever. Since then, NetworkManager actually asks me for a network key, which is progress, but it still can not connect. And while trying, I can not help but think: If NetworkManager was a well-written piece of software, it would give me the option of actually saving the network key, and reviewing it. It would give me a progress report and an understandable error message. And it would not be that the only way to access Network Manager is to click on some icon (when I type /usr/sbin/NetworkManager in a terminal, nothing visibly happens). This has already caused me great damage, and I am not sure what to do next: Keep trying? Abandon Fedora? Abandon Linux altogether? Two or three weeks ago, I was convinced that I would use Fedora for the next months or years, then maybe Fedora or some other popular Linux distro, and that free software is the future. Now I am not so sure any more. Because what will continue to happen is that new things will keep coming up - hardware, protocols, java classes - and then there will be commercial software supporting it available immediately, while the free software community will struggle for months to come to terms with it. Take care Oliver -- Oliver Ruebenacker, Post-Doc Researcher Theoretical Biological Physics and Soft Statistical Mechanics Cell Biology at UConn Health Center and Physics at Harvard http://people.deas.harvard.edu/~oliver/