Re: New Dell Inspiron 9400: From Vista to Fedora/Vista.

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Nat Gross wrote:
..I do not want you to mess up your system so
investigate why you have the two ntfs partitions.

Vista uses two partitions (this, unrelated to dell's own private
partition), one is a 'recovery backup' partition used by some fancy
new Vista backup/rollback scheme. Now, this was 10 gig to begin with,
but being cheap and thinking I won't use windows that much anyhow (the
main reason I need it is to test my Java software) I reduced that
partition. It turns out that for the sake of simplicity I should have
left it at 10 gig, and I have since used windows to set it back to 10

It sounds like overkill to have a restore partition for Vista and another for Dell software recovery. It should be enlightening if both were needed at the same fault incident. The 75MB partition would make a good /boot partition. The standard partition for boot is not fully utilized. I have two kernels and 35% is used out of 100MB.

Regarding VISTA, I like the resizing tool concept as part of the OS, the
/boot partition they now have and the lower privileges for applications
instead of admin for everything of helplessness for regular users. I
hated NT4 through XP, so the reading of those changes is comforting. It
will be sometime before I would have access to Vista though. I never
used it yet.


Woops. The FC 6 installer dvd just ejected... hang on...
Good news, some hiccups.
With the partition, using anaconda I deleted the little extended
partition and created a new large one leaving about 3 gig free, 2 of
which went for the swap (2 gig ram).

Swap can be a partition within the extended partition. You can have MS or various swap or Linux filesystems on the same extended partition. I guess there are so many possibilities to schemes for partitioning that everyone will have different layouts.

I did NOT manually create /boot, and true to my hunch the installer
offered to install grub.

If you did not make a separate /boot partition it will be part of the / partition. Grub will be located in the /boot/grub directory off of main.

However, it seems that the installer also didn't know which is the
*real* Vista partition, so I manually told it, sda3 and not sda2 as it

I assume that it grabbed the first bootable partition and maybe referenced the active flag. Vista is post FC6 to my perspective. Anyway, at least it was not a major problem for you to resolve.

Unrelated, the installer crashed every time I clicked on []Extras
repos. When I realized that was the cause of the crash, I decided on
minimal clicks and options throughout, and all completed ok.

During the testing phase for FC6, I had trouble with the /extras repo. For Fedora 7, all will be one repository. I hope this scheme works out better. I like a lot of the packages which FC6 and earlier snapshots have available. Soon we will find out!

Installer rebooted, finished setting up a non-root user, tested sound
ok, rebooted again.
grub gave me the option, chose FC6, booted only into mode 3 terminal, no gui.
Rebooted, gui came up login ok.
All laptop options nicely installed on gnome menus.
No kde option on logon screen.
yum update complains that another process is running yum. reboot,
still complains.
reboot to test grub --> windows. 100% ok!
windows part manager says that the linux partition is empty and do I
want to format it? ahem.

You might want to hide the partitions from Windows. There are options for grub to hide the partitions from the Vista system.

While typing this message [on another machine] (having rebooted again
into fc6) I get a beep from the gui updater that there are 233 pkg's
to update. I guess this sucker locked the yum file. Anyhow, I let the
gui do it this time.
whew. I need a break.

There are plenty of updates since FC6 was released. It is slow to resolve the large updates. Hopefully it will update in gUI mode without killing X during the upgrade. It is best to do initial updates from a terminal in case a package resets the GUI. Afterward, it is fairly safe to use the GUI updater.

Thank you all!!
Feel free to ask anything related to this.

Hopefully you will get all the specifics ironed out. It sounds to me that you have a good grasp to get a system setup without a lot of errors during the setup.


"We all agree on the necessity of compromise.  We just can't agree on
when it's necessary to compromise."
             -- Larry Wall in  <1991Nov13.194420.28091@xxxxxxxxxxx>

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