On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 10:05 +0100, Scott van Looy wrote: > Today Tim did spake thusly: > > > On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 01:09 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> The problem is that so much of the system is opaque with undocumented > >> 'features' that are just waiting to be exploited. It's not that the > >> users are clueless, it is that there is no way for them to have a > >> clue. > > > > Hear, hear... > > > >> How many people know the minimal set of ports needed to be open for > >> Active Directory and Exchange server to work and what is supposed to > >> happen on each, for example? > > I pasted that into google and got: > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/270836 > > as my second link > > > Or how in hell to get MSN messenger to work through your firewall, or > > any other number of things that you need to get to work with your > > system, but come with no more information than an instruction to see > > your system adminstrator (who has no information about it, anyway). > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q240063/ > > Most windows sysads know both, or are at least as capable as myself of > googling it... :) > > > > -- > Scott van Looy - email:me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx | web:www.ethosuk.org.uk > site:www.freakcity.net - the in place for outcasts since 2003 > PGP Fingerprint: 7180 5543 C6C4 747B 7E74 802C 7CF9 E526 44D9 D4A7 > ------------------------------------------- > |/// /// /// /// WIDE LOAD /// /// /// ///| > ------------------------------------------- > > knot in cables caused data stream to become twisted and kinked > The first didn't answer Active Directory, and the second didn't answer for the current revision of I.E. Not so simple is it? Regards, Les H