Greetings; I've been through my own personal hell the last 18 hours. First, I noted through a smartctl report that my hda was approaching the end of its life, the seek errors were up into the 300 million range, the the ECC errors wasn't far behind it. So I started a dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdd which cloned that 160GB drive to a 200GB drive. While that was going on, verizon decided it was time I changed my password and disconnected me. After the clone job, and re-arranging drives, removeing the old hda, moving the clone hdd to its position both in the machine and on the cable, then putting a new 320GB in as hdd. It wouldn't boot, mounting /boot and then FAIL without a reason. So I got out the zod livedvd and booted it, doing the setup on hdd, but apparently I'd forgotten the order, so that was a three times around the loop deal. Then, since I now had no partition for the last 40GB on hda, I fired up fdisk and added that. The LVM didn't like that, and steadfastly refused to let me modify /dev/VolumeGroupyaddayadda in any way to fix it. Several hours and many reboot attempts later it finally did let be run an e2fsck on it, which promptly (several hours at that) 'fixed' a bunch of stuff, and when it was done, about half of my kmail setup and mailboxes were toast. I finally got all that sorted I believe but 2 questions remain. 1. How can I add this extra 40GB to that VolGroup now mounted on / 2. This brand new 320GB maxtor is acting a lot like the old 160GB seagate was. from a smartctl -a /dev/hda, the old 200GB maxtor: SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 125 124 021 Pre-fail Always - 4250 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 040 Old_age Always - 91 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 253 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 072 072 000 Old_age Always - 20862 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 253 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 253 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 88 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 109 253 000 Old_age Always - 41 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0009 200 155 051 Pre-fail Offline - 0 Note then poweron hours, over 20K Now, from this new 320GB drive: SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 117 100 006 Pre-fail Always - 142787210 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 097 097 000 Pre-fail Always - 0 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 3 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 253 030 Pre-fail Always - 373173 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 9 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 5 187 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 189 Unknown_Attribute 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 190 Unknown_Attribute 0x0022 059 059 045 Old_age Always - 690290729 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 041 041 000 Old_age Always - 41 (Lifetime Min/Max 0/31) 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 062 062 000 Old_age Always - 184671713 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 202 TA_Increase_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 Note Poweron hours, 9 And both the #7 and #195 errors are incrementing at several per second rates. I can't believe this drive won't die shortly, or am I barking up the wrong tree on both the old hda, and this new hdd? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Here I am at the flea market but nobody is buying my urine sample bottles ...