jack wallen wrote: > trying to boot the live cd and getting no where. You don't say which Fedora 7 Live CD you are referring to (there are three) or what computer you are using. My experience with Fedora 7 Test 3 (6.92) Live CD (KDE version) was the opposite. It booted on all 5 of my computers, where Fedora Test 1 failed on 3 out of 5. Two slight problems: (1) KPowersave crashed during the boot on all 3 laptops. Also I could not run backtrace - it complained about the absence of gdb. (2) NetworkManager failed to find the WiFi network on all the machines. And KWifiManager was no better. [In my opinion NetworkManager is not yet fit for general usage. Actually, I doubt if it ever will be, since it tries to be far too clever and all-embracing. What is needed in this case at least is a simple program which will scan for any available networks, allow one to choose between them, and ask for any encryption key required.] It is a pity, finally, that Fedora Live does not eject the CD when one shuts down, as Knoppix does. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland