Re: Dell to sell Linux PCs

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On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 08:27 -0700, BRUCE STANLEY wrote:
> 
> 
> Andy Green <andy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>         BRUCE STANLEY wrote:
>         
>         > If you go out to the Dell Website and select the "Dell
>         Workstations"
>         > option, you will see that you can select Red Hat Enterprise
>         Linux v4
>         > for your operating system.
>         > 
>         > If you click on a Windows option for the same configuration,
>         > you will see that the starting priced for any version of
>         windows
>         > is higher than the starting price for Linux.
>         
>         It doesn't work like that on the UK Dell Website. Last time I
>         looked I 
>         couldn't even find any mention of Linux, but I checked today
>         and it is 
>         mentioned. Here is what the navigation looks like right now to
>         try to 
>         do as you suggest.
>         
>         1) http://dell.com redirects me to
>         http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/default.aspx?c=uk&l=en&~ck=geo
>         
>         Oh yeah on EVERY page: "Dell recommends Windows Vista (TM)
>         Business"
>         
>         2) Select Desktops | Small business gets you to
>         
>         http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/desktops?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&l=en&s=bsd
>         
>         where there is an advert for Vista in the top third of the
>         page.
>         
>         3) "Choose" button for Dell Precision
>         
>         http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/precn_desktops?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&l=en&s=bsd
>         
>         Oh wow a "special offer" on -- "Windows Vista at no extra
>         cost"
>         
>         But it does mention RHEL is an option, not a choosable option,
>         just 
>         mentions it.
>         
>         4) Click "Select" on the most expensive one, the 690. Gets you
>         
>         http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/precn_690?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&l=en&s=bsd
>         
>         Hm, RHEL is not mentioned any more, but "Windows Vista TM at
>         no extra 
>         cost" is.
>         
>         5) Click "Customize & Buy" for the left hand choice of two
>         690s, it's 
>         the expensive one I figured it would have RHEL as an option.
>         Gets you here:
>         
>         http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/emea/topics/vistabundles/bsdbundles?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&l=en&s=bsd&~section=W03692
>         
>         Wow a whole page titled "Welcome to Windows Vista" with a gal
>         who looks 
>         really happy. There are two buttons at the bottom, "Choose
>         Vista" and 
>         "Choose Windows XP". Nothing about RHEL or Linux or anything
>         except 
>         kissing one ring or the other.
>         
>         6) Well I "chose" Vista let's say
>         
>         http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&kc=DRS66902&l=en&oc=W03692&s=bsd
>         
>         Err choice between 3 types of Vista.
>         
>         7) Back up to 5), try the "Choose XP" button
>         
>         http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&kc=DRS66902&l=en&oc=W03692xp&s=bsd
>         
>         Choice of XP or XP x64, no Linux.
>         
>         8) Back up to 3), try the cheaper of the pair
>         
>         http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/emea/topics/vistabundles/bsdbundles?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&l=en&s=bsd&~section=W03691
>         
>         Yeah "Choose Vista" or "Choose XP"
>         
>         9) Back up to 2), try the cheapest, the 390 which also lists
>         RHEL
>         
>         http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/precn_390?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&l=en&s=bsd
>         
>         10) Okay choose the most expensive on the left and "Customize
>         and Buy"
>         
>         http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/emea/topics/vistabundles/bsdbundles?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&l=en&s=bsd&~section=W03392
>         
>         Aiieeee "Welcome to Windows Vista"
>         
>         So it's nice if you can get Linux in the US Dell site, but I
>         can only 
>         find it mentioned and I certainly am not being allowed to
>         compare prices.
>         
>         -Andy
>         
>         
> 
> Interesting.  Can you select the USA option from the Main page?
> 
> Or, can you order Linux via a salesman rather than ordering it 
> on line?
> 
> If not, maybe for some reason Dell is not yet set up to ship
> Linux systems out of the USA.  
> 
> Can't imagine why that would make a difference though.
> 
Doesn't matter, the Canadian and US sites don't allow you to select
Linux either, you can only Customize with XP or Customize with Vista.

You would probably have to order by phone or email. They do not want 
to advertise their pricing for Linux, likely because they are still 
way overcharging for it.

We order the Dell rack mount servers without any O/S, and do our 
own custom installs, which we feel is preferable to a cookie cutter 
Linux/Unix install.



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