Jim van Wel wrote: > > You should get an error back. So what's the error? No error, it never leaves the queue. It just sits there complaining about a read error. Standard "warning 4 hours" and then "error 5 days" messages from sendmail on our mailhost. If I switch over for ten minutes to our ISP's smarthost then it's gone in just a few seconds and charter.net accept delivery from them. If I try to connect to their SMTP port by hand: mirror!~ % telnet charter.net 25 Trying 64.192.190.12... telnet: connect to address 64.192.190.12: Connection refused telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused So I think it's an IP address based thing at their end. Jonathan