I have a backup script which I run on some sort of regular basis. I use tar to create an archive, which I then split into pieces of CDROM size (703MB) and write to CDROMs. Originally, I wrote it such that it added directories one by one to the archive, but found that it took inordinately long periods of time. A little investigation showed that each time it started up tar, the entire archive got copied, another directory got added, and then the archive was renamed. Since there are about 15 directories that I back up, that meant *lots* of copying. So, now I just put them all in there at once. But I'm missing the progress indicators I used to get. For example, during the "verification phase" I used to have... for path in $backupdirs do echo "Verifying $path...." | wall tar tzf /tmp/backup.tar.gz 1>/dev/null && \ echo "$path: verified" | wall || \ echo "$path: errors in verify" | wall if [ $? -eq 0 ] then echo "$path: verified" else echo "$path: error(s) in verify" 1>&2 fi done Is there a way to get tar to use the archive it is adding to "in place"? I've read man and info, and I see --append (which is what I was using) and --catenate (which looks marginally faster, perhaps, since I compress), but see no way to make it "just do it" without doing an implicit copy. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!