Re: ESR: Goodbye Fedora

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Today Res did spake thusly:

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Kwan Lowe wrote:

He's kind of slow on the draw if he just noticed that fedora is a
bleeding edge distribution and not particularly stable.  New development
has to be tested somewhere.
ESR has always been a lot of hot air.  He's an attention whore.

He is some thing of a gas bag, isn't he. :D

Maybe :), but he has a couple things I agree with, RH/Fedora is losing ground
on desktop share, because people want things to just work, like as simple as
playing a bloody mp3, which they can do with every other distro
out there. like it or not, its here and here to stay.
This is changing a little in Fedora 7

Try converting winblows users to Fedora, but saying, oh but you cant play mp3's out of the can, but youll have to go toa unofficial RH/Fedora repo and try install it, or do like I do and erase the players RH bastardises, and grab the source and install it, now say that to a newbie and you've lost em! First impression are ever lasting in this game.
However, not all first installs are like that...I've converted a few ;)

Secondly, the version upgrade is messy, I've never ever yet upgraded from one version of RH or Fedora without conflicts, FC4 was a comple explosion, I gave up and reinstalled previous and ignored FC4.
Odd. I've upgraded my server from RH5 all the way up to FC6 using either
apt-rpm or yum and not had any major issues. package-cleanup from yum
tools is great for getting rid of the old crap left over.
Yet I can do this with even slackware and have been able to for years,
with slapt-get I was able to upgrade without a drama a slackware 7 box
to a slackware 11.0!!, reboot and viola! all working.
slapt-get completely killed my slackware 10 box. Twice. Never again...

I'll possibly for time being stick with Fedora for desktops,as I've used them since early RH, but no way in bloody hell will it ever run on any server in my data center, I'll stick with slackware there, last RH server I decommisioned about 2 years ago was RH9, it was unbreakable, Fedora is by design "bleeding edge" or is that "bleeding edge of blunders", and if we dont fix it soon, the likes of debian and suse will overtake us by a long mile.
I run FC6 on my server. It's never "broken". I use it to watch DivXs too
and occasionally X breaks or MPlayer, but the ability for it to deal with
my email/file serving/IRC server has remained unbroken.
/end rant :P
I guess everyone's experience is different. Me? I only enable livna and
don't use any other repos, cept for AT for a webcam driver, and I simply
enable that long enough to get a new kmod every new kernel. And it's been
pretty solid for me...
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