On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 16:13 -0800, Norm wrote: > Ric Moore wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 20:04 +0000, Paul Smith wrote: > > > >> Dear All > >> SNIP! > > > I find it shocking the number of people that seem to feel it is funny to > die from a tumour in the head. Can any of you imagine what it is like > to suffer a headache for several months that has an intensity of greater > than a bad migraine? Unfortunately I do not need to imagine what it > feels like, nor do I need to imagine the after effects of having a > massive tumour removed from the head - I live them every day. > Many of the scientific studies claiming there is no danger from emf are > funded by organization with vested commercial interests in claiming > there is no danger. Most if not all independent studies express the > opinion that the cumulative effect of long term exposure to emf may be > harmful and caution is advised. The tobacco companies and others > companies have denied for years that their products were not harmful and > they even produced scientific studies to support their position, of > course now most realize that tobacco is harmful. > Before I changed to IT I worked in the environmental services area, > during my years in the field the acceptable toxic level of many > chemicals was continually being moved lower, the list of previously > thought to be harmless chemicals increased constantly. As an example > pcb were once thought to be great o clean automotive parts and mechanics > routinely used pcb washes to clean automotive parts. > None of us thinks that tumors are funny. But I, for one, do not believe that brain tumors are caused by EMF from cellular towers, WIFI, or even cellular telephone use. What makes Radar ranges work, and also makes RADARs dangerous (at least up through 30GHz) is the heating of water by molecular action. It can burst cells, it can even cause flesh to cook from the steam so created. However a tumor is generally the body's reaction to changes in genetic structure. This requires interaction at the atomic level, and EMF at frequencies below 100Ghz do not produce the forms of ionizing radiation to cause that. That is basic physics. I did say that there may be some percentage of people that can be affected. I don't know about that, for sure either, but neither can I rule it out. I have worked with RF from about 100Khz to over 30Ghz without harm (other than an occasional electric shock when I wasn't careful about where I put my meathooks). I am sorry for your tumor. I do know that there are forms of radiation that can cause tumors, but they are not within the bands I specified, and I do know that I have been subjected to some of the forms that are definitely known to cause tumors, but by luck or nature, I avoided such harm. Even radiation known for certain to cause tumors doesn't do it immediately in some cases, so I may still be a candidate even decades after that form of exposure. I don't think you will find me laughing about that any time soon. And like the business with PCB's the opposite of that coin is DDT, which you can actually eat without it hurting you, but due to some activists, its use has been banned in many countries of the world, which has resulted in the deaths of millions of people in some regions of the tropics due to Mosquitoes spreading infectious diseases like malaria, or the infamous biting flies of some areas of New Guinea which implant their larva under the skin which will literally eat you alive. I think the business about RF is closer to this case than that of PBTs. YMMV. Regards, Les H
