On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 17:28 +1030, Tim wrote: > Dotan Cohen: > >>> [dotancohen@localhost .AbiSuite]$ ls -al > >>> total 36 > >>> drwx------ 2 dotancohen dotancohen 4096 פבר 9 02:42 . > >>> drwx------ 49 dotancohen dotancohen 4096 פבר 9 02:42 .. > >>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 dotancohen dotancohen 16076 פבר 9 03:04 AbiWord.Prose arefile > > Aaron Konstam: > > Another mystery is how you did a ls -al and did not get entries for . and .. > > They did. They're the first two lines, they've just got some non-ASCII <(פבר) characters in front of the dots. I'm presuming that they're the > date's month, in Dotan's locale. Anyway I have almost cracked the secret of the 36. All files must take a minimum of a 4K block, So if you add a small file < 4K to the directory the number will go up by 4. So the number is the sum of all the blocks in the directory including . and .. (in multiples of 4) + 4. I don't know where the + 4 comes from. Maybe someone else can explain. -- ======================================================================= T-shirt of the Day: Head for the Mountains -- courtesy Anheuser-Busch beer Followup T-shirt of the Day (on the same scenic background): If you liked the mountains, head for the Busch! -- courtesy someone else ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx