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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Prevent unknown users from using Internet
(Mikkel L. Ellertson)
2. FC6 virutal Manager Problem (ram)
3. Re: Security Updates -- Are they necessary in Linux for user?
(Mikkel L. Ellertson)
4. Re: FC6 through the rear view mirror (Les Mikesell)
5. Re: pine program and mail services with FC6 System (Anne Wilson)
6. Re: Security Updates -- Are they necessary in Linux for user?
(Les Mikesell)
7. Re: FedoraCore 6 smbd /write acces problem (Anne Wilson)
8. VDQ respins (Beartooth)
9. WARNING - Possible Data Corruption (John Wendel)
10. Odd Keyboard problem on FC (3-4-5-6) - config maybe?
(William W. Austin)
11. Re: Can Evolution be used to access yahoo mail? (Les Mikesell)
12. Re: [solved] Re: No squid logging after FC6 upgrade (Rick Stevens)
13. GM & MS (Ed Landaveri)
14. Re: GM & MS (Scott van Looy)
15. Re: Can Evolution be used to access yahoo mail? (parishd)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:03:08 -0600
From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Prevent unknown users from using Internet
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <45C8B4CC.9060508@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
bsnottum@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hello!
I am running fedora core 2 server with dhcp-3.0.1rc14-1.
I would like to restrict Internet access only to those users that is
given
an ip-address from my dhcp server. The dhcp server only gives out
addresses to nic's already defined in dhcpd.conf.
Has anyone had any experience with this? All kinds of help would be
appreciated.
Thanks!
Bjorn
Have you considered running a proxy server and requiring everyone to
connect to the Internet through it. If you just open the firewall to
IP addresses assigned by the DHCP server, someone can still use the
IP address of a lease that has not expired, but is not being used.
If you do not like the proxy approach, you can set up iptables
firewall rules using the MAC address. (--mac-source) But you need to
be aware that MAC addresses can be faked. One advantage of having
the firewall reject connections on the local network that do not
have an approved MAC address is that they will not be able to talk
to the DHCP server. You could probably write a script that would
grab the MAC addresses from the DHCP config file, and generate the
firewall rules.
If your FC2 box is not your firewall between the local network, and
the Internet, then this is not going to work. The what you can do
depends on your firewall/router...
Mikkel
--
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 22:36:36 +0530
From: ram <talk2ram@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: FC6 virutal Manager Problem
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<b74751490702060906nde08cddx58499e052296b40d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi
i have installed Full of FC6 and updated up to date
using Xwindows iam creating Virtual manger,
and want to install Debian on Virtual Manger.
i have downloaded internet version, and mounted ISO image to /mnt/iso
when create new VM, and select that path and try to install
still its asking required NFS or HTTP or FTP ?
how can i install from ISO image
any suggestions
Ram
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:12:32 -0600
From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Security Updates -- Are they necessary in Linux for user?
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <45C8B700.6080400@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Tim wrote:
Scott van Looy:
Default is not to cache files. Change:
keepcache=0
in /etc/yum.conf
Mikkel L. Ellertson:
This controls keeping of installed files. but doesn't YUM keep the
files it was not able to install even with keepcache=0?
The parameter is called keepcache not keepinstalled, and that seems to
be how it behaves, despite what it says about it the yum.conf man page:
keepcache
Either ¡1¢ or ¡0¢. Determines whether or not yum keeps the cache
of headers and packages after succesful installation. Default
is ¢1¢ (keep files)
I've observed it to dump files its cached for the next run, so they need
re-downloading, even if they weren't installed.
NB: Although the default for YUM may be "1" (keep files), the default
preset in the yum.conf file is "0" (don't keep files).
I have had just the opposite experience - the files are still in
/var/cache/yum/{repo}/packages. At times, I have used rpm to install
most of the packages.
I wish YUM would install the packages that do not have conflicts,
instead of aborting on the first error...
Mikkel
--
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:22:26 -0600
From: Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: FC6 through the rear view mirror
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <45C8B952.5060800@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Craig White wrote:
"We all hate to look stupid
instead of just ignorant." This statement suggests that it is preferable
to looking stupid on this list as opposed to looking stupid on bugzilla.
But on this list, someone who just solved the same problem is likely to
respond instead of developers who may or may not get something in the
next release.
There is little room to coddle people who rant on this list and don't
report their issues to bugzilla since it is specifically bugzilla that
was created for fixing problems with the software. Ranting on this list
doesn't get things fixed and reporting to bugzilla is designed just for
that purpose.
Or, in bugzilla you may after some long time get:
"This bug has been mass-closed along with all other
bugs that have been in NEEDINFO state for several
months."
Here, you may at least get suggestions that let you move on to something
that works in some short amount of time.
--
Les Mikesell
lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:25:48 +0000
From: Anne Wilson <cannewilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: pine program and mail services with FC6 System
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <200702061725.49097.cannewilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 12:54, edwardspl@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
So...how to config ( enable ) the Dovecot ( /etc/dovecot.conf ) ?
You go to the dovecot site where there is a very detailed wiki, giving
examples of everything you need.
Anne
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:29:05 -0600
From: Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Security Updates -- Are they necessary in Linux for user?
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Tim wrote:
Scott van Looy:
Default is not to cache files. Change:
keepcache=0
in /etc/yum.conf
Mikkel L. Ellertson:
This controls keeping of installed files. but doesn't YUM keep the
files it was not able to install even with keepcache=0?
The parameter is called keepcache not keepinstalled, and that seems to
be how it behaves, despite what it says about it the yum.conf man page:
keepcache
Either ¡1¢ or ¡0¢. Determines whether or not yum keeps the cache
of headers and packages after succesful installation. Default
is ¢1¢ (keep files)
I've observed it to dump files its cached for the next run, so they need
re-downloading, even if they weren't installed.
NB: Although the default for YUM may be "1" (keep files), the default
preset in the yum.conf file is "0" (don't keep files).
I have had just the opposite experience - the files are still in
/var/cache/yum/{repo}/packages. At times, I have used rpm to install
most of the packages.
I wish YUM would install the packages that do not have conflicts,
instead of aborting on the first error...
Yum is a strange beast, best left to do things its own way, which has
varied wildly between versions (including that default about keeping the
cached files). If you do a 'yum search yum' you'll see a variety of
tools intended to help tame the beast in the extras repository. If
there is some way to find out what yum-utils and the assortment of
plugins actually do, I haven't found it yet.
--
Les Mikesell
lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:35:02 +0000
From: Anne Wilson <cannewilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: FedoraCore 6 smbd /write acces problem
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <200702061735.02994.cannewilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 16:39, Andrada Meda Felegean wrote:
Hello to All,
I have installed Fedora Core 6 (Zod) on a machine meant to sustain
the
WinMentor database for an internal network. I have configured smb.conf
and
tested it with testparm and everything went OK. [root@CIEmentor usr]#
testparm
Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
Processing section "[CIEWinMentor]"
Loaded services file OK.
Server role: ROLE_STANDALONE
Press enter to see a dump of your service definitions
[root@CIEmentor usr]#
Here is my smb.conf file:
#======================= Global Settings
===================================== [global]
workgroup = MATRICON
server string = Mentor Server
security = share
hosts allow = 192.168.0.
guest account = root
log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log
max log size = 50
local master = no
os level = 33
preferred master = no
dns proxy = no
add machine script = /usr/sbin/adduser -n -g machines -c Machine -d
/dev/null -s /bin/false %u #============================ Share
Definitions
============================== [CIEWinMentor]
comment = CIE WinMentor Databases
path = /usr/mentor
guest ok = yes
writable = yes
create mask = 777
sync always = yes
hosts allow = 192.168.0.9 192.168.0.10
public = yes
The problem is that when i try to create a new file or folder from the
browser, my acces is denied. I am able to see and access the
folders/files
that i have already copied on the Hdd, i am able to copy data and create
new directories via ssh connection, but i have no write access from the
browser. The error that i receive is:
[root@CIEmentor usr]# tail -f /var/log/messages
Feb 6 15:54:49 CIEmentor kernel: audit(1170770089.930:70): avc: denied
{
write } for pid=12486 comm="smbd" name="mentor" dev=dm-0 ino=7791439
scontext=root:system_r:smbd_t:s0 tcontext=root:object_r:usr_t:s0
tclass=dir
Feb 6 15:54:49 CIEmentor kernel: audit(1170770089.934:71): avc: denied
{
write } for pid=12486 comm="smbd" name="mentor" dev=dm-0 ino=7791439
scontext=root:system_r:smbd_t:s0 tcontext=root:object_r:usr_t:s0
tclass=dir
Feb 6 15:54:49 CIEmentor kernel: audit(1170770089.934:72): avc: denied
{
write } for pid=12486 comm="smbd" name="mentor" dev=dm-0 ino=7791439
scontext=root:system_r:smbd_t:s0 tcontext=root:object_r:usr_t:s0
tclass=dir
Feb 6 15:54:49 CIEmentor kernel: audit(1170770089.938:73): avc: denied
{
write } for pid=12486 comm="smbd" name="mentor" dev=dm-0 ino=7791439
scontext=root:system_r:smbd_t:s0 tcontext=root:object_r:usr_t:s0
tclass=dir
What can go wrong?
/usr/anything is not considered a good place for shared directories. Take
a
look at
ls -l /usr/
Also, I wouldn't be happy with the line
guest account = root
Anne
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:46:54 +0000 (UTC)
From: Beartooth <Beartooth@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: VDQ respins
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <eqaeud$mfa$3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Afaik, the FC6 respins are available only over bittorrent; and I couldn't
seem to get bittorrent to work. I finally contacted my very helpful local
ISP. They wrote me up a walk-through, which I have done -- and now I can't
seem to find the site for the respins any more, nor the post here that had
given it to me. <whimper, sniff ...>
Clue, please? We're having an installfest this weekend, and as one fo the
few who run FC6.ppc (at least locally that I know of), I want to take
along some nice fresh CDs and DVDs.
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:54:04 -0800
From: John Wendel <john.wendel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: WARNING - Possible Data Corruption
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <45C8C0BC.4040909@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I just saw what appears to be a data corruption problem on one of my
boxes. I'm not sure at this point exactly whats happening, but I
thought I'd warn people that there might be a problem.
Software
Latest FC6 with updates as of last night, running 2.6.19.***. No LVM,
no raid, 3 drives, 1 IDE, 2 SATA.
Hardware
Older Intel P4 on a VIA based motherboard. This system has been
totally stable for about 2 years and I use it daily without seeing any
problems.
[1] Seagate IDE drive on a VIA 8235 controller, system boots from this
disk and it holds the /home partition.
[2] Maxtor SATA drive on a Promise TX2300 controller mounted on
"data2" in my home directory.
What I saw
On the IDE drive, in my home directory, I have a directory ("DVD")
holding three dvd ISO images. I wanted to move the images to the SATA
drive because the IDE drive was getting full (80% used).
I copied ("cp -a DVD data2/DVD") the 3 DVD images (27 GB) from the IDE
drive to the SATA drive. After the copy, I did a "du" in the source
and destination directories. All of the destination files were smaller
than the source files. I checked /var/log/messages and didn't see any
errors.
At that point, I had to leave for work, so I haven't done any more
investigation. When I get back home, I'll of course retry the copy.
Anybody got any clues about what I should look for / try next?
Thanks,
John
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 08:26:10 -0500
From: "William W. Austin" <waustin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Odd Keyboard problem on FC (3-4-5-6) - config maybe?
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<1170768370l.18991l.0l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed
I have an odd problem which occurs on 2 machines - my main workstations
at work and in my home office. Periodically with no discernable
pattern the keyboard will "disconnect" from each machine. The keyboard
is still responsive - I can, for instance do the
<SCROLL-LOCK><SCROLL-LOCK># to change to a different machine, and the
keyboard is completely OK. But <CTRL><ALT><BACKSPACE> for instance
does not work.
When the problem occurs I see nothing unusual in /var/log/messages or
/var/log/Xorg.0.log, and dmesg shows nothing odd.
The office machine is running FC5 on an athlon xp2500+ while the
machine at home is running FC6 on an athlon 64 x2 dual core 4600+.
Both systems have all patches completely up-to-date (as of noon
yesterday, anyway). Both have at least 1GB ram, large drives (mixed
scsi and sata/scsi) with 3-4GB of swap. All of the hardware is
different between the 2 machines.
There are only 3 commonalities between the configurations on the two
machines. First both have a default run level of 3, not 5, on each.
Second, I have similar .Xdefaults and profile files on both machines,
and finally both systems attach to their keyboard/monitor through a KVM
switch (but a different brand/model. (One system's kvm switch has 2
linux, 1 sparc/solaris and 1 win2000 machine on it, while the other's
has 2 linux and 2 win2000 boxen on it.) But I had used kvm switches
for years before this problem ever started cropping up during FC3 IIRC.
The problem doesn't seem to be related to how heavily the machine is
being used and occurs at random intervals. I can go 3 weeks without it
happening on either machine, but then the next day it can happen 2-3
times on either or both machines. Not always, but usually (I *think*) I
will have an openoffice window (doc or spreadsheet) open along with at
least a couple of other windows (xterms), but the OO window is not
necessarily active. OTOH, I've had it happen with only an xterm window
open and nothing else.
When it occurs the mouse still works, and I can still close most apps
and make a clean exit from Xwindows. So this is a nuisance - not a
life-or-death showstopper - but it's a real pain.
The problem occurs (on each system) for all users, even users with
everything set to system default on both.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated - I've tried searching
bugzilla and have RTFM'ed until my eyes started to bug out, but all
without any success.
Thanks in advance ...
--
william w. austin waustin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
"life is just another phase i'm going through. this time, anyway ..."
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:02:42 -0600
From: Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Can Evolution be used to access yahoo mail?
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <45C8C2C2.9010600@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Todd Warner wrote:
Anyone ever get google to work with multiple POP clients? A use case
example could be: 1 work machine and 1 home machine pulling down the
same email.
It works, but you only get new mail once.
Anyway. Google's implementation of POP support doesn't (or at least
didn't) work like traditional services. I finally gave up and just use
their web interface, which is very nice. I just can't read email
offline.
You can, but don't download to a location where you don't have time to
finish reading it... You can configure gmail to also 'archive' a copy
as you download so you can read/respond/delete in your pop mailer and
only use the web interface if you need to go back and search or access
something you downloaded to the wrong place.
Things may be different now but it doesn't sound like it.
If one of your own machines permits inbound internet connections the
nicest approach is to run fetchmail and an imap server on it. Then you
have a copy you can access from multiple locations and you can still
read/respond/delete with gmail keeping an easily searchable archive copy
for you.
--
Les Mikesell
lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:06:40 -0800
From: Rick Stevens <rstevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [solved] Re: No squid logging after FC6 upgrade
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1170785200.5284.42.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 16:43 +0100, Hans Müller wrote:
Hans Müller schrieb:
> Hallo, after upgrade from FC5 to FC6 squid don't log the access in the
> file /var/squid/acces.log
> anymore. What must be changed to get working again.
>
The parameter name was changed in FC6 in the config file.
Form cache_access_log to access_log.
Yeah. It'd sure be nice if the Squid folk would get consistent with
WHAT directives are being renamed and on which versions. As it is, you
have to figure it out yourself. It's really getting on my nerves.
I mean, make a clean change with 2.6.STABLE10 or something. "With
2.6.STABLE10, we're going to the 3.0 directives. 2.4 and 2.6 directives
no longer work."
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- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -
- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com -
- -
- If your broker is so damned smart...why is he still working? -
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:09:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Ed Landaveri <ed7tux@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: GM & MS
To: Fedora-List <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <369816.34651.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
At a recent computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared the
Computer industry with the auto industry and stated,"If GM had kept up
with technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving
$25.00 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon."
In response to Bill's comments, General Motors issued a press release
stating:
If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving
cars with the following characteristics (and I just love this part):
1. For no reason whatsoever, your car would crash........T twice a day.
2. Every time they repainted the lines in the road, you would have to
buy a new car.
3. Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You
would have to pull to the side of the road, close all of the windows,
shut off The car, restart it, and reopen the windows before you could
continue.
For Some reason you would simply accept this.
4. Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turn would cause
your car to shut down and refuse to restart, in which case you would
have to Reinstall the engine.
5. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, was
reliable, Five times as fast and twice as easy to drive - but would
run on only Five Percent of the roads.
6. The oil, water temperature, and alternator warning lights would all
Be replaced by a single "This C AR Has Performed An Illegal Operation"
Warning light.
I love the next one!!!
7. The airbag system would ask "Are you sure?" before deploying.
8. Occasionally, for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you out
And refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door
handle, turned the key and grabbed hold of the radio antenna.
9. Every time a new car was introduced, car buyers would have to learn
How To drive all over again because none of the controls would operate
in the same manner as the old car.
10. You'd have to press the "Start" button to turn the engine off.
For all the above reasons: Move to Linux, the best choice!
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Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 18:15:15 +0000 (GMT)
From: Scott van Looy <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: GM & MS
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0702061814270.18820@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Today Ed Landaveri did spake thusly:
At a recent computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared the
Computer industry with the auto industry and stated,"If GM had kept up
with technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving
$25.00 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon."
</snip>
http://www.snopes.com/humor/jokes/autos.asp
It gets less funny after the 20th time...
--
Scott van Looy - email:me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx | web:www.ethosuk.org.uk
site:www.freakcity.net - the in place for outcasts since 2003
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:12:06 -0800
From: parishd <parishd@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Can Evolution be used to access yahoo mail?
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
<91d6d0f80702061012nceda75fg52be19b76c8177e2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On 2/5/07, Ric Moore <wayward4now@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 14:08 -0700, Gueckel, P. wrote:
> Yes, the problem has been solved: there never was one (hehehe). I
> didn't know
> google doesn't allow downloading of one's own mails to oneself.
I think I will go to google and bitch about it. If two or more do the
same thing, it may get some attention.
I have been doing some googling and found repeated complaints about
mail to self not being downloaded via pop since gmail was released.
The answer from gmail, repeated as recently as last month, is that
gmail "doesn't do that". Apparently it is going to take an act of God
to get it corrected, and yes, I do believe this is a significant
problem.
Daniel
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