On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 22:07 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > "One set of margins sits inside the other." Perhaps I have a > problem here, I never did quite figure why there were two places for > setting the top [all four] margin. Can you shed some light on that? I've had similar fun and problems (sarcastic tone) with margins and that same about-the-page information getting cropped off. When you go to print and the print dialogue pops up (you'll probably have to initiate printing from the menu, not a hotkey or toolbar icon, to get it to pop up), it has options for how the printer will print the page (page size, dimensions, etc., that set the printing area. It will let you set things to print beyond the point that the printer can actually print. Firefox's "page setup" menu item, just above "print", in the file menu, sets out how Firefox will create pages to be printed. What bits of information appear where (top left page title, bottom middle page count, and so on), and the gaps around that information and the page body content. You'd want to play with them both, the first one as suits your printer, the second one as suits the fonts being used around the page and the page content. +--------paper edge-------------+ | | | +-- printable area margin -+ | | | info about pages | | | | +----- page margin ----+ | | | | | | | | | | | actual page content | | | And so on... I can remember going through this bother with desk top publishing programs, with headers, footers, and page bodies. Even more of a pain when you use different printers with different printable areas, and you want to print something as close to the edge as you can.