On Thursday 25 January 2007 14:32, Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy wrote: >OK, heyu cannot by any means be called a common usage application. Oh, you never wished to have the christmas lights turned on and off w/o your help? Actually I use them all year round as porch lights in the early evening, and later I put them into motion detector mode so if I come in later than usual, they light my way to the door. How about you are in the basement playing pool and have xmms cranking out some good old beer drinking country music and you'd like to skip the currently playing song? Its as close as picking up an x10 palm pad and hitting an A5 on. Anything you can make the machine do can be commanded from an x10 palm pad and the correct option settings. >Kino > is an end user application and is not restricted by targeted selinux > policy. Anything you do as a regular user is not restricted. I am not > sure if running kino as root would trigger selinux to deny something, > but unless you know what you are doing you shouldn't do that anyway and > if you know what you are doing you can fix the policy. And this is where we differ. The docs that should teach one howto run these utilities are a joke, obviously written by a Sony or Scientific Atlanta lawyer, one friggin page that fits on a single 1600x1200 screen. And when I ask questions about it, the answers I get are, more often than not, composed by someone who knows very little more than I, and probably found that out the hard way, but has a better short term memory than I do at this late date. > I think the main > problem in this instance is between the chair and the display. Absolutely No Doubt About It! But the info to fix that problem does not exist in a readable by a technical person format. Give me some real docs and I'll STFU and fix it. Reading about it is my way around poor short term memory, particularly if I waste the tree to print it and put it in a folder for reference if I get hazy on the exact details. This security, if indeed it is that and not just a user hassler, is security by obscurity. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.