Greetings; I have acroread-7.0.8 installed here and it has a bug. Does adobe maintain a bz site? The bug is that when trying to do duplex, the 2nd pass for the odd pages only, will only do reverse order about half the time, and then for not more than 2 pages or so. I've just wasted 50+ sheets of paper trying to do a duplex job with page 2 on the back of page 1, but I'm getting page 33 on the back of page 2 because while it shows you the correct page in the printer dialogs window, eg the last page, but when it dumps to the queue, it starts at page 1 and goes forward even with the reverse arrow checked. If kprinter doesn't suffer from this, then how can I make ff use a rendering chain that ends in kprinter for .pdf's? Thanks all. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.