On Friday 19 January 2007 01:09, Craig White wrote: [...] >> If its not recommended, then IMO it should at least return an advisory >> saying: sorry, root is not allowed to run this. > >---- >of course that misses the point...since root running GUI is what is not >recommended, thus root running beagle isn't tested. The fact that you >run GUI as root, knowing that it isn't tested, it isn't recommended and >in the top 3 things not to do, and in spite of knowing all that, you >choose to do it anyway suggests that advisories of any kind would be >pointless. Thanks for making it clearer why there are more than 50 >warning labels on all ladders sold today. Pointless? So is all that su this and su that because I can't do it otherwise. [...] >> I think this all boils down to somehow, this machine did not get quite >> a few items installed when it was installed, and I did install >> everything that was offered. Missing beagle docs? Why, they're right >> there in /usr/share/man on my machine. Except they weren't. Let me use cron for an example. It wouldn't do a thing until I had scarfed up all the /etc/cron directory tree's from my FC2 install on the old drive. They simply weren't installed when I made the FC6 install. Why? DamnifIknow. >---- >rpm -q beagle # is beagle package installed? >rpm -Vv beagle # verifies beagle installation (if installed) > >locate is typically a poor/inefficient way to look for docs on packages. Probably true, but then I don't have to spend 5 minutes reading through the manpage to find the option I need to use to make rpm do all the dirty work. By then I can have many queries processed by locate. Efficiency is in the mind of the user and we all have different priorities I guess. >Todd simplified/clarified my suggestion of using rpm to locate man pages >installed with packages but clearly the simplest way to locate docs is >apropos... > >$ apropos beagle >beagle (rpm) - The Beagle Search Infrastructure >beagle-config (1) - command-line interface to the Beagle >configuration file >beagle-query (1) - search your personal information space >beagle-shutdown (1) - cleanly shutdown the Beagle daemon >beagle-status (1) - repeatedly display Beagle status >beagled (1) - the Beagle daemon >libbeagle (rpm) - Beagle C interface > >(you can man apropos if you wish) Apropos hasn't been as educational for me as it could be, too much is missing from its database IMO. Here for instance, I get only the last line in its output. I thought I'd removed it, but yum just removed it again, and the apropos beagle still says its there, so I assume the apropos database is now out of date somehow. >apropos doesn't list the 'README' files though and I keep resorting to >pipe commands... >$ locate beagle|grep README >$ locate beagle|grep man > >10 hours of research? Scattered over probably a month, triggered by the subject which seems to bob up like an unsinkable fishing float. This thread you will have to admit does seem to have immortality. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
