On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 15:56 +0000, John Bowden wrote: > On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 10:15 -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 23:37 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 22:20:23 -0500, > > > Lyvim Xaphir <knightmerc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > Phil is a United States citizen. As such he would not have been put in > > > > Gitmo. Club Gitmo is reserved for non-US combatants; as such they do > > > > not fall under the purview of the US Constitution. > > > > > > Bush claims to be able to declare anyone an emeny combatant and then be > > > able have done pretty whatever he wants to you. > > > > What US citizens have been declared enemy combatants? > Maybe the American found fighting for the Taliban in Afghanistan during > the Afghan invasion? We've already been over this. His citizenship was established and he was turned over to authorities within the US. So it's not "maybe", it's "no". > > > > > > > The US constitution protects the rights of noncitizens (at least it used to) > > > as well as citizens. > > > > > > "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect > > Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the > > common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of > > Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this > > Constitution for the United States of America." > > > > The Constitution's primary purpose is to outline the rights of US > > citizens, not non-citizens. That's what the Constitution does. Which > > is the whole reason non-citizens are trying to become US citizens in the > > first place. > > > > LX > > -- > > °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° > > Off Topic or Political Discussions: > > http://mandrakeot.mdw1982.com/ > > http://www.mdw1982.com/mailman/listinfo/mandrakeot > > > > "Character is what you do when nobody's looking." - J.C. Watts > > °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° > > > So your constitution makes it illegal to lock up and torture US citizens > but its not illegal to lock up and torture none US citizens, - without > due course to a court and proof they are guilty. Its this two tier form > of democracy that the Arab states are so suspicious of. If you want to know what's legal with regard to the constitution I suggest you read it. In the meantime, if you are not a US citizen and you are actively working against the US, that's your little red wagon. As I've said before, this political discussion is better suited for the MandrakeOT list; links are in the sig below. LX -- °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° Off Topic or Political Discussions: http://mandrakeot.mdw1982.com/ http://www.mdw1982.com/mailman/listinfo/mandrakeot "Character is what you do when nobody's looking." - J.C. Watts °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
