Rob Andrews wrote: > Can you provide several good examples of how a whole new upstream release > has made it into Fedora over the past few years? I can think of only a few - > as I recall, FC5 had a new kernel version not long after release - to name > but one. Ah. A challenge. Yes, some time after new upstream kernels are released Dave Jones will update Fedora with kernels based on them. He reports that it's the main way that kernel bugs get fixed (not surprising -- there's more people working on the upstream kernel than the Fedora one). There's libdrm: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2006-December/msg00121.html libiec61883: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2006-December/msg00101.html rdesktop: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2006-December/msg00078.html xorg-x11-drv-tdfx: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2006-December/msg00070.html xorg-x11-drv-s3: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2006-December/msg00071.html frysk: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2006-December/msg00005.html That's just for December. Going back further, *all* of KDE was updated to version 3.5 during the FC4 timescale. Of course, most updates aren't full new releases, simply because this is true of most upstream packages. James. -- E-mail: james@ | This is a Hollywood film. When it comes to the Laws of aprilcottage.co.uk | Physics, they're lucky if they get gravity.