Greetings all; I would like to convert a utility so it can run as a normal user. However, this normal user has no write perms to /var/log and therefore cannot generate its log file. Whats the normal procedure in this case, make that user a member of the group disk?, or make a subdir in /var/log this user then owns? I can do either, the latter easier than trying to figure out chmod from its obtuse manpage. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.