Re: Updates done by everyone

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Roger Grosswiler wrote:
> All i would like, is that if the notify from linux comes with "xxx
> updates available" that the user can click "ok" to launch them itself.

OK -- now why is this the best way of doing things? And for whom?

It would only really make a difference where the user was *not* an
administrator, and there *was* another administrator. Why would you
*want* a pup-style applet on normal user desktops? Why should normal
users be expected to take responsibility for updating the system when it
clearly isn't their responsibility?

Or, to put it another way, in any situation like this:
 1. The administrator wants updates to be applied. The administrator
    ought to set up a regular yum -y update (possibly from a trusted
    repo) and the users shouldn't be bothered.

 2. The administrator does *not* want updates to be applied. In this
    case, he doesn't want users updating behind his back. (Hopefully
    these machines don't have Internet access anyway). So the users
    should not be bothered.

 3. The administrator doesn't care. That sounds like the usage model
    you're talking about. And it sounds like your saying that normal
    users should be *given* a measure of responsibility over the entire
    system.

The point is that it isn't really for the distribution to give that
responsibility to users. It's been well established over the years that
you get a lot better security by having things closed by default and
letting the end-users enable what they want than by having things open
by default and hoping that the users know how to close them.

Ultimately, if the administrator really doesn't care, that's a human
problem that a Mere Computer can only work around by refusing to work
at all...

James.

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