On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 20:44 +0000, Thierry Sayegh De Bellis wrote: > Kim Lux wrote: > ame time as the kernel ? > > > > So I'd have to teach my mom to make sure to not boot the new kernel for > > a few days and, as a matter of fact, check that the new driver is > > installed before booting it. In effect, teach her to rpm -q > > kmod-nvidia ? Yeah, that seems user friendly. > > > > Let's be realistic here, Linux for the masses (of mums) is just a plain > silly concept at the moment. > If your requirements are simple (email, web) you should be able to get > by just fine, otherwise you accept the basic fact that you need to be > technically inclined or willing to be enlightened / learn. Or we could *improve* Linux until it is a little bit more user friendly ? Wow what a concept that would be ! > If i think about 1993 when I was installing Linux on a laptop from a > stack of floppies, well I am really impressed with the situation now, > so much *bling* in so little effort. I totally agree with that. I wasn't around Linux in '93, but I agree with the gist of what you are saying. > Ranting and bitching because you are too lazy to be realistic will not > get you anywhere. Thank you for identifying a new personality trait for me that I never knew I had. As far as realism goes, it seems to me that every other driver installs without me building it. > Besides Fedora is meant to be "a free operating system that offers the > best combination of stable and cutting-edge software that exists in the > free software world." > > Stable is good but there is that "cutting-edge" aspect you need to take > into consideration...I am not a native English speaker but I do > understand the standpoint there ; and you are playing with "testing" > packages so stop throwing your toys out of the pram, grow up and become > an adult. You might even get some fun along the way... Once again thanks for clouding the issue by introducing the red herring concept of stability and then using a metaphor that infers I am a baby ! The nvidia driver situation has nothing to do with kernel age or stability. You can go back to 2.4.x kernels and the problem is still there. Would Fedora core 2 be stable enough for you ? Please name me a distro/release that doesn't have this problem ! > Otherwise go get yourself a nvidia friendly distribution and stop trolling Which would be what ? -- Kim Lux, Diesel Research Inc.