Just when things seem to be bugger-all and the kernel doesn't cooperate or some application makes you crazy, a refresh of this sort may come in handy. Nope, my little froodies, it's not about the machines at all. http://dingo.care-mail.com/cards/flash/5409/galaxy.swf I hope this sorts it all out into proper perspectives for ya. We are the BEMS! <eg> Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net ================================================