I have an unusual request, but due to the eclectic range of interests on this list, thought I might find someone here with some knowledge. Any extended exchanges probably should be off-list. This is, of course, completely OFF-TOPIC, and I beg forebearance based on two facts: (1) This is on behalf of a large number of people (2) at least one of us has spent over two years off an on searching the net for information, without much success There is a type of "antique" collector, of which I am one, who collects and restores old tube radios, putting them back into working condition, and restoring the finish of the case. Some of the cases have a type of cheap "veneer" which is paper, printed with wood grain, then colored and varnished. When such a case is damaged, it is impossible to refinish using normal techniques, because the strippers ruin the rest of the "veneer". So, we are looking for wood grain images which we can print or reproduce using Xerographic techniques, color, and varnish to repair these sets. Does anyone know of wood grain patterns which we could use? The ones we have found on the web are small patches, unsuitable for this particular use. Thanks so much for your forebearance. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!