Weird, sound disappeared in several apps like xine and foxfire and kaffine. So I'm looking where the heck it went within specific apps. Mplayer works just fine. So, I'm thinking they have gstreamer in common and I found this. /usr/bin/gst-feedback /usr/bin/gst-xmlinspect-0.10 /usr/bin/gst-feedback-0.10 /usr/bin/gst-xmlinspect-0.8 /usr/bin/gst-feedback-0.8 /usr/bin/gst-xmllaunch /usr/bin/gst-inspect /usr/bin/gst-xmllaunch-0.10 /usr/bin/gst-inspect-0.10 /usr/bin/gst-xmllaunch-0.8 /usr/bin/gst-inspect-0.8 /usr/bin/gswitchit-plugins-capplet Is this normal???? what's with all the version numbers? Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ...the Sin of Ignorance, and ...the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net ================================================