On Sat, 2006-09-30 at 00:23 -0400, fedoralist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Jeff Vian wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 17:24 -0400, fedoralist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > >>Joe Smith wrote: > >> > >>>fedoralist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>I've been using core 4 for quite some time now and this is the first > >>>>time i've had to think about device nodes. I'd like to mount a floppy > >>>>that's formatted to 1680 density but can't figure out how the device > >>>>nodes work. ... > >>> > >>> > >>>I hate to ask, but did you try it? The fd0...fdn devices are supposed to > >>>auto-detect the actual capacity and density of the disk in the drive. > >> > >>Yup. After reading the udev stuff. > >> > >>[root@apollo ~]# mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy/ > >>[root@apollo ~]# ls /media/floppy/ > >>?.? 8v??.?? fp??????.?1? ??syslin.ux ???.u?? > >>????????.??? }???.?b? f?>?tf??.t?? ????????.?t? ???}????.u}? > >>?.??> ??b?6?t?.??? f!?txf?.? ???????.t?= ???????u > >>?<??@???.??? b??????u.??? ???h.??? ?????!?t.?aq u????u?.??? > >>???.??? ??cbt.^?f ?>lu.?hu &?tf??4u.?.? _w??p??.??_ > >>??.??? dlinux s.ys? pamsu7f?.>du ?t??< v.?n? > >>0uf???8u.f)? f??bss.??? p??s??.??? t??x?.??x > >> > > > > The 1680 density is NOT a dos/vfat format. IIRC that is a MAC format > > and needs to be mounted as such for proper access. > > > > > > Not true. In fact, Microsoft used to use 1680 density for its install > disks. I've no idea if it was ever used for Macs, though. In any case, > it mounts fine on core 3 with -t vfat. > I dimly remember that Win95 (the last version that did a floppy install) had higher than standard density diskettes for the install. I never did know exactly what density it was, and the floppy install for windows disappeared after that use. > The example i posted above was to show that the disk was not > automagically detected by udev as 1680. That is what i would expect to > see on my core 3 box if i used /dev/fd0 (because it's the wrong density). > > core 3: > [root@poseidon ~]# mount -t vfat /dev/fd0u1680 /media/floppy/ > > works fine. > > core 4: > [root@apollo ~]# mount -t vfat /dev/fd0u1680 /media/floppy/ > mount: special device /dev/fd0u1680 does not exist > With Core 3 and earlier all the possible device types were created in /dev. In later releases they saw fit to remove them and they now have udev and hal to do the automatic configuration for you. I bet if there was a rule for udev to create the device you could get it to mount under FC4 & FC5. Alternatively, if you know the specific characteristics of the device you could use mknod to create it manually. > b >