Wow, it all went blooie! No clue what broke other than DNS resolves when it feels like it, anyone else have update break something I should be looking at? I had to reset my dsl modem back to DHCP mode to get names resolved at all, now I'm fixing to try to set it back to pass through mode and see if it'll work again. It was working just fine, then nada. I suspect an update of some kind. Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ...the Sin of Ignorance, and ...the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net ================================================