>I hope this helps >Mike -- >mike cohler > http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~mdc1/samsung.html Thanks for both your original article, and comprehensive reply. I still am not sure why I had so much trouble, as I believed that I had resorted to "starting again" quite early in the attempts. I think finding so many variables, many no doubt outdated, did complicate it. In the end it was quite easy, thanks to all the support from this list of great people. dpet South Australia