Greetings; I brought my lappy back from MI and have been basicly just updating it once a week or so since. Tonight I thought maybe I'd see if my printer list on this machine was visible on that machine, but anything I do that requires a cups restart fails because after the editing by localhost:631, /etc/cups/cupsd.conf is a zero length file. Repeatedly. This list of 4 configs, all pointing at the same printer, is visible on all the other machines on this network, and is usable by those machines including one kubuntu-6.06.1 out in my shop. The c88 that was connected to it is not now, and cups miss-reported it as available and ready before I started screwing around. How do I trace when cups was updated? Its currently, according to yumex, labeled as cups, version 1:1.2.3-1.2 -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.