On Sunday 10 September 2006 18:30, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, Jack Gates wrote: > > On Sunday 10 September 2006 14:39, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > >> On Sunday 10 September 2006 13:36, Jack Gates wrote: > >>> On Sunday 10 September 2006 08:00, Tim wrote: > >>>> Easy to do: Serve it XHTML to the full letter of the > >>>> specifications, and it can't/won't display it. > >>>> > >>>> Or, for a cheap trick, specify Wingdings as the font face. > >>>> MSIE will display gibberish, other systems will use a default > >>>> font (if they don't have Windings). Those systems that display > >>>> proper text are the ones that are working properly, by the way. > >>> > >>> If anyone has Windows and IE handy go check out my site > >>> http://www.jlgates.com I looked at it on my wife's box. It is > >>> nothing but gibberish except for one line (by design). > >> > >> Jack: > >> While it works as intended in Mozilla, both Konqueror and Opera get > >> gibberish. -- cmg > > > > Still have the font-family set to Wingdings and the site shows up in a > > proper font in Firefox, Konqueror and Opera. The only browser that > > shows an unreadable page is IE. If any one goes to the site > > http://www.jlgates.com with any browser other than IE and can't read > > the page let me know what browser. I am probably going to write the > > pages in proper XHTML and change the font-family back to something > > normal, but that probably won't happen any time soon. > > Because you asked: firefox-1.5.0.6-2.fc5 under FC5 with the webcore-fonts > RPM (Microsoft's Web Core Fonts packaged for Fedora from > http://avi.alkalay.net/software/webcore-fonts/webcore-fonts-1.3-1.noarch.rp >m). > > It probably doesn't matter what the browser is, only whether it has the > Wingdings font accessible to it. If I uncheck "allow pages to choose > their own fonts" in Preferences -> Content-> Fonts -> advanced) it looks > OK. > > -- > Matthew Saltzman I concur with Matthew. When I ran the tests discussed earlier, ms-fonts were installed here. I just uninstalled them, and now everything looks just fine. FWIW, earlier this evening, I viewed the page from my wife's Mac using Safari and it showed garbage. Since OSX (or whatever they call it) includes IE, I'm guessing that the MS fonts are part of the package. Incidentally, I also have KateOS III installed on another set of partitions. It does not have MS fonts installed, and the page displayed perfectly in every one of the installed browsers (Firefox, Epiphany, Seamonkey, and Konqueror). Of course, if Jack does have the ms-fonts on his system, my guess is hogwash. -- cmg