On Friday 08 September 2006 08:49, Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 01:06 -0400, Jack Gates wrote: > > On Friday 08 September 2006 00:46, Craig White wrote: > > > On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 12:37 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > Craig White wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 23:47 -0400, Jack Gates wrote: > > > > >> On Thursday 07 September 2006 23:41, Craig White wrote: > > > > >>> ---- > > > > >>> inane windows type of problem resolution doesn't make > > > > >>> sense on Linux or Linux applications. > > > > >> > > > > >> That was condescending and totally not necessary. > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > not at all > > > > > > > > > > condescending is telling you that you apparently couldn't > > > > > see past that sentence to the one that followed which told > > > > > you what to do. > > > > > > > > Whatever you want to call it...your statement should either > > > > not have been made or should have been made in a way that the > > > > OP (any OP) would not feel insulted. It matters not that you > > > > gave a suggestion/solution. > > > > > > > > You could have said... "The type of problem resolution > > > > you've described is Winblows based and not practiced in the > > > > Linux world.". Or words to that effect, and then go on to > > > > give your suggestion. > > > > > > > > It is called, "Being tactful". > > > > > > ---- > > > There wasn't the slightest bit of intent to be condescending - > > > that exercise was by the reader. Thanks for signing on to it. > > > > > > I can't always help that someone reads some intent into my post > > > that wasn't there. > > > > You are very direct and very rude. If you truly want to help > > then review what you are about to send and if it could be taken > > wrong don't send it. You can help how people take what you > > write. Take some advise and read some books that teach you how > > to be more polite and tactful. You can catch more flies with > > honey than you can vinegar. People don't care what you know > > until they know that you care. Another way of saying it is > > filters can dump anything you send in the trash and it won't get > > read at all. > > ----- > Umm....our previous exchange went like this... > > > > condescending is telling you that you really need to learn to > > > ask questions the smart way... > > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > > > I have read that site and I do attempt to ask questions in a > > smart way. Sometimes it is not possible especially if I don't > > understand and sometimes reading the man pages leaves me more > > confused. > > ---- > Now, IF you actually read the link about asking questions in a > smart way, you would have known NOT to respond as you have above. > You obviously need to re-read it. > > I am very direct and can be rude at times but I don't ever try to > be rude. My point was very clear...inane Windows solution of > uninstall/reinstall is rarely appropriate for troubleshooting > Linux/Linux applications. > > I can tell that you are hypersensitive so I will pass on your > questions in the future and allow others who are much more careful > not to offer advice that could possibly be construed as > condescending. In my view, it would be better to find the wisdom in > advice that was given rather than seeking out how it **might** have > been intended to insult. Those whose egos are so fragile that they > must be carefully catered to don't interest me (excepting children > which I am presuming that you are not). > > Filter me if you wish. > > Craig Just because some people have more knowledge, understanding and passion about something then others and they write a disclaimer and an introduction that is rude (truthful but still rude) does not mean that they are any less arrogant and condescending. Nor does it mean that it is any more accepted in general society. We have our opinions of each other and we disagree with what is acceptable interaction between two people in a public forum. I now publicly apologies to the entire list sense I could have left this alone at the very start. I will not reply to any more comments on this thread unless it is to deal with my original question. -- Jack Gates http://www.morningstarcom.net
