Re: BIOS and GRUB haywire

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On 9/6/06, Thufir <hawat.thufir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 9/2/06, Tod Merley <todbot88@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 9/1/06, Thufir <hawat.thufir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On 9/1/06, Tod Merley <todbot88@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > [...]
> > > But you are not seeing POST!
> > >
> > > You could try:
> > >
> > > Change out the video card (if there is one).
> > >
> > > Change the CMOS battery (should reset CMOS if corrupted and better
> > > it's chances of not being corrupted).
> > >
> > > You could try the remove - test - replace - test RAM as suggested by
> > > Chris and even research your BIOS (look on the MB for a BIOS tagged
> > > chip) to know the sequence of audio beeps it should present if memory
> > > is removed.
> > >
> > > If all above tests fail then you probably have a bad Mother Board or
> > > Power Supply.  Probably the Mother Board.  If it is an old box, try a
> > > used computer store (know your HW to find compatible MB).  Or maybe it
> > > is time to upgrade.
> > >
> > > Good Hunting!
> > >
> > > Tod
> >
> >
> > 'No beeps and no POST
> > Pull everything out of the machine except for the CPU and power the PC
> > up. The PC should now only consist of a power supply, a motherboard
> > and a CPU/HSF. This means your PC should have no video card, RAM or
> > IDE cables. You should have no PCI cards and that includes modems and
> > sound cards. Have a power button and speaker hooked up to the board so
> > you can turn it on and listen for beep codes.
> >
> > If you have the PC stripped down this much and you still do not get
> > any beep codes, then you may have an issue with either the CPU,
> > motherboard or power supply.'
> > <http://www.pctechnicians.ca/help/pcguide.html>
> >
> > I didn't know the google terms to search for, great response, thanks
> > for the help everyone.
> >
> >
> > -Thufir
> >
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>
> Hi Thufir,
>
> Our regrets at your loss.  I shall now hum "taps".
>
> May you find some great hardware!!
>
> Tod
[...]

Thanks :)

The motherboard was still under 30 day warranty, so it was replaced.
On boot "GRUB" appeared just once, but it wasn't the grub shell as
there was input from the keyboard which was accepted (?).

I did a clean install :(

-Thufir

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Hi again Thufir!

If 'e' happened to be the first character you hit (after escape) then
you were in edit mode.

Still, I love a fresh install.

The history of the box leaves me a bit concerned.

1. Check out the loading of the power supply.  Basically, you look
through all the technical specifications for how much power (or amps)
are used and add them all up and see if the Power Supply is rated to
handle all of that.

2. Make sure the fans work and are turning in the right direction.

3. See that the box can "breath", that you are not blocking air inlets
or outlets.  It could get a bit hot in there.

4. Watch the CPU temperature.

I always simply wonder why things blow up.  Not nice to see again!

Have Fun!

Tod


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