--- Negative <negativebinomial@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 8/30/06, Mark Haney <mhaney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > Andy Green wrote: > > > Ubuntu: > > Yeah it's fine. I simply do not like the GNOME > interface. Not anymore > > at any rate. > > > > > > After this, we come to what I think of as the > first surprise in our > > > survey. Gentoo took fourth place with a total of > 9.6 percent. Gentoo, > > > to me, is a Linux expert's Linux. I know many > serious Linux users who > > > work with Gentoo to better understand Linux, but > almost no one who > > > uses it as their first choice for day-to-day > work. > > I love Gentoo. It used to be the 'expert's > linux', but I don't see that > > as the case now. The new installer is is pretty > good and they do not > > advocate a stage 1 install anymore either as it > doesn't give the > > performance boost compared to the work involved. > That said, my kids > > laptop's and my Mom's desktop all run Gentoo and > they can handle their > > systems just fine. My youngest is 7, BTW, and she > can emerge packages > > pretty well. I personally find having the > packages installed in their > > default locations (at least according to the > manual), makes life easier > > on me. Plus I've found the performance boost of > not having packages > > compiled for every possibility (within reason) to > be worth the time of > > compiling. > > > > > > In fifth place, we find Fedora, Red Hat's > community distribution. > > > Fedora, while still somewhat popular with 7 > percent of the vote, seems > > > to have lost some of its charm to users in the > last year. > > > ...'' > > I don't see that it's lost it's charm, IMHO. I > have 13 other servers at > > home running FC3/4/5 and all my systems here at > work (barring my laptop) > > are all FC other than my SGI systems. I much > prefer FC over Debian > > across the board. Debian package management has > always been a PITA, > > whereas yum and RPM's 'just work'. However, I do > see two weaknesses in > > FC. A lack of a LiveCD ( I use these more and > more to promote linux use > > in my family) and the fact that it's 5 CD's or a > DVD to install. Sure > > Ubuntu has a DVD version, but a good standard > install is still only one > > CD the rest you can apt-get. I've never managed > to get a good base > > install from one FC CD. The fact I need to insert > CD 3 for one package > > is a pet peeve of mine, but one I can live with as > long as I have > > broadband where I can ftp install from a mirror. > > > > All that being said. FC is still the best linux > version for general > > desktop use for people who want the 'latest and > greatest'. Ubuntu is > > always slightly behind on that for stability's > sake. > > > > Just my $0.02 > > > Interesting to see this now. I've recently tried out > Ubuntu, and liked it > well enough to put it on another machine. The three > of the other six > machines are FC. . I just upgraded two from FC 1 to > FC 5, and lost sound on > both, and I have no time now to mess around with it > -- after all, FC 6 is > breathing down the neck of what I've got. > > Anyway, I'm on the fence. As I get used to the where > Ubuntu puts things, I > may continue switching. I may even drop the Red Hat > subscription. It's an > expensive proposition that amounts to getting emails > about updates rather > than having to remember to run yum every week. It's > nice to have them keep > upgrading stuff, but the software still goes out of > date -- what verson of > java? what version of python? > > As far as FC, I know all that Red Hat says about the > bleeding edge, but I > have to work at some other things besides upgrades. > Tonight I'm going to > watch a movie. I'm not going to fix sound on an old > Micron. > > FC changes too fast, and RH costs too much. > > There's my 2 cnts, too. > > > -- > > Ceterum censeo, Carthago delenda est. > > > > Mark Haney > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > ERC Broadband > > (828) 350-2415 > > > > -- > > fedora-list mailing list > > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Fedora People are working very hard to make this live cd. As a matter of fact, distrowatch has announced the availability of some live cd's http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03666#0 Regards, Antonio __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com