On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 28Aug2006 10:21, Michael Hennebry <hennebry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > | > | eol2 = <undef>; erase = ^?; erase2 = ^H; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; > | > > | > Hmm, erase2! New lore! Thanks, I could do with that on several machines. > | > | Not all that new. The greeting: > | > Last login: Mon Aug 21 12:56:28 2006 from 24-119-255-8.cpe > | > Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 > | > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > | > FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE (WEB43A) #0: Wed Jul 25 16:05:53 CDT 2001 > | > > | > Welcome to FreeBSD! > > Ah. I'm still slumming it in Linux land. Does FreeBSD have pf? And > remind me - FreeBSD is the lots-of-apps/desktop-ish one, NetBSD is the > ultraportable and OpenBSD is the ultra secure one, yes? I use OpenBSD > for a firewall but haven't gone for the FreeBSD stuff yet. Don't really know. I'm using it because I can get my mail on it and no one "impoves" it every few monthhs. > > | > You try and make the place as secure as you can, but you don't reckon > | > with the kind of people who try and break into an explosives factory > | > with an oxy-acetylene torch. > | > | Whence this? Love it. > | Of course, the really dangerous ones are the ones that can do it. > > A RISKS digest I think, but I cannot find the cite. I do recall a story > somewhere about some army guys breaking into a fireworks factory with > a torch, and that it was known they were army guys because there was a > gate they'd ignored nearby. I found this: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuurwerkramp > > but it doesn't match my recollection. This page: > > http://www.sandlingfireworks.co.uk/index.html > > (follow the "NEWS" link) has it: > > 26/9/00 > Dim witted thieves break into Sandling Fireworks factory using a > welding torch!!!!! Really!!!! Amazingly nothing caught fire and they > lived to tell the tale - to the police. 95% of the fireworks stolen > have now been recovered by police. You have heard the expression "as > thick as thieves", well they don't come much thicker than this! Doh! Now that I think of it, it's not all that amazing. Had they tried to cut through a wall with fireworks piled against it, they might have succeeded all too well. Cutting an office wall is much less likely to cause an explosion. Even in the storage area, probably at least one wall in four has no fireworks next to it. Not odds I'd want to rely on, but not miraculous either. Had they cased the joint, they might have known where they could cut. -- Mike hennebry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "it stands to reason that they weren't always called the ancients." -- Daniel Jackson